Altidore facing heat for tardy tweet

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Jozy Altidore's days at Hull City could be numbered, and his chances for playing time in the immediate future seem remote, after he became the latest athlete to get in trouble for posting something revealing via Twitter.

Altidore is being issued an undisclosed fine by Hull for tweeting an apology after arriving late to the club's match vs. Portsmouth on Saturday. Altidore was already punished for arriving late by not dressing for the match, but he drew harsh criticism from Hull manager Phil Brown, who believes the incident never should have been revealed to the public.

While Altidore was wrong for showing up late, do you think Brown was right to make such a big deal about the tweet? Disappointed by Altidore's tardiness? Who do you see leaving Hull first, Brown or Altidore?

Share your thoughts below.

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137 Responses to Altidore facing heat for tardy tweet

  1. dman says:

    meh he’s 19….he’s a human and makes mistakes.

    probably best idea to stay off twitter

  2. Hugo says:

    What he said wasn’t bad, it was an apology… its a load of bull.

  3. John Godfrey says:

    His days at Hull City “could be numbered”? Says who? Not Phil Brown. Let’s not resort to hyperbole, please. He will get a fine. And he will come off the bench next week vs. Burnley.

  4. SD says:

    disappointed that jozy still seems to be immature, but he is 20(?) and that’s what 20 year olds do. Not sure if the tweet is worthy of a fine…he was admitting his mistake not commenting negatively about a referree….but I guess if this is the only way for him to learn, then so be it….don’t know much about brown….but looking at the line up each week, it seems he doesn’t put his best team on the pitch and so one must wonder about his abilities…

  5. Dominghosa says:

    it just keeps getting better for US soccer players, eh? well, brown will be gone soon. not best for Jozy to look for yet another team in January

  6. rory says:

    I was more worried when he tweeted something like “sorry I misspelled so much in that private tweet, I was driving at the time”

  7. ELAC says:

    Phil Brown is a tool. Tweeting? Really? C’mon? Altidore won’t be back with Hull. Brown is in tight with the owner.

    Time to say bye, Jozy.

  8. Dominghosa says:

    oh, and of course, we all know brown is a nutcase, jozy’s tweet was contrite.

  9. afc says:

    Well there is no excuse to be late. He should have gotten an alarm clock, its not like Hull were playing at 6:00 am. He’s been a pro for a while.

    Jozy should have known better especially considering how nutty Phil Brown is.

    I don’t think his days are numbered. Now that is what is ridiculous!

  10. Matt Mathai says:

    Disappointed that he was late – it’s not very professional. But being fined for tweeting about it? How is that different from being asked about it by a reporter? He didn’t say anything bad. I don’t get it. He’s a kid, and I don’t think this will have any long-term ramifications, unless Brown is a complete idiot.

  11. TomM says:


    Days numbered? What do you know that we don’t?

    Seems a bit harsh for being a twit.

  12. Nigel Brooks says:

    Fine him for showing up late – thats just fine.

    But fine him for apologizing for showing up late?????????

    That’s nutz

  13. smokeminside says:

    Well, whatever Brown is, he’s not in step with the younger generation.

  14. FredMacMurray says:

    first – not a bad headline there Ives – cold have been the NY Post.

    second – Jozy is an idiot for being late, and for tweeting anything that was not yet public about the team.

    20 is not 12, stop appologizing for him – as the manager said, we train and prepare all week for a match, shop up on time.

  15. JeffM says:

    I guess I see why Phil Brown was upset, but he’s not helping the situation by publicly commenting on it. Jozy tweeted an apology, not a complaint. Let it go. Also, is punishing a player for an innocuous tweet more important to Phil Brown than, say, scoring goals and avoiding relegation?

    P.S. to Jozy: tardiness is unprofessional. Get it together.

  16. Nicole says:

    Where is it indicated that his days could be numbered? Some sensationalism going on here. Disappointed in you – cuts down on your credibility.

    (SBI-Why is it sensationalism? He’s a player who hadn’t been getting playing time as it is, now this happens (and by this I mean him being late for a game AND then tweeting about it). If Brown manages to stick around how much confidence does he have in Altidore? So yes, we’ll stick with his days could be numbered, but then again, so could Brown’s.)

  17. soccerroo says:

    I agree. Not professional being late but come on fined for tweeting and letting his fans know why he would not be dressed. I can understand if he was dressed and doing it on team time but the coach sat him in the bleachers which he deserved and he apologized to his fans for what he did wrong.

  18. KireDCU says:

    I don’t see this as being on the scale that it would lead to his departure from the team. Let him learn his lesson and move on. Then again, I don’t know anything about Brown…

  19. Dudeinho says:

    Ill say it again he needs to be in spain better for his development.

  20. we'll see says:

    After the CR game, Jozy said he now realized that every game could be his last and he was gonna take things more seriously. Guess that only lasted a week.

  21. Tim H. says:

    Personally, I think Phil Brown needs to get off his high horse. Hull have been hurting since last year when he went off on the team at half time before the fans. He needs to rethink his strategy and get more on a personal level with his players. I think they’d play a lot better if they respected and liked him, and didn’t just fear him. But Altidore should be fine, I would think he’ll be back on the bench shortly… At least if Brown has two brain cells to scrape together.

  22. soccerroo says:

    cuts down on Credibility????

    It was the question at the end of a news/blog entry. That is what is great about SBI. He brings news and then offers discussion and opinion at time about the news. That is what the site is all about. If you want strictly news go to ESPN and read his news write ups.

  23. Mark says:

    I agree with most posters. Jozy deserved to be punished for being late. But tweeting an apology and getting into further trouble is dumb. It’d be another think if he ripped the coach…

  24. Matt L says:

    Fewer Tweets…more showing up on time.

  25. MetroTard says:

    Anyone remember how Roy Keane handled Timmy Howard when he showed up late?

  26. Joamiq says:

    This is so stupid. There was nothing wrong with his Tweet. There is no reason for the fact that he was late to stay private. Phil Brown is just looking for a reason to punish him. What an idiot.

  27. Josh says:

    Isn’t one of the knocks on him that he hasn’t shown a full commitment to his training day in and day out? I would say that falls under the heading of professionalism as well. Someone needs to take Jozy under their wing and help him with the mental side of being a pro, which I think would help get him on the field more. Talent isn’t the issue, it’s everything else.

  28. Black Blue says:

    I sended Matt L. But seriously Brown? Who pulled your pants down? Don’t make me hate Hull City.

  29. werner says:

    I don’t get it. I was mad that he did not play at the manager. So i think Jozy does the right thing and tells us what happens. He admits his fault so we don’t critize the manager and now he gets into even more trouble.

  30. Shraf says:

    Phil Brown will be gone before Jozy. FACT

  31. Rastafari --SBI Herbsman says:

    Jozy.. its time to show some skill and stop feeling sorry for yourself. Show up to pratice and hustle.

    Footie 101 dude

  32. kpugs says:

    I think any celebrity of any kind airing any type of thing publicly is stupid of them.

    Having said that, it sounded like a sincere apology. I don’t think it deserved any additional punishment.

    Having said THAT, how are athletes still not getting this? Your bosses pay you big money, and they all hate twitter. How hard is it to just NOT post a few dozen words once in a while?

  33. Nicole says:

    Soccerroo, it was not a question at the end of a blog. The writer flat out said, “His days could be numbered” in the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the blog.

    And yeah, it is sensationalism. And I’m not the only person to question the “his days could be numbered” line that you throw in there. His days could have been numbered without the twitter/late stuff; or the thought may have never even crossed Hull City’s mind. It’s speculation and I will repeat sensationalism, IMO. You conjured those words up to create drama.

  34. chg says:

    Jozy was wrong for being late. Unless he is chronically late, it isn’t a sign of a lack of maturity or professionalism, it is a sign of being human. I doubt there is an adult on the planet who has never been late for work.

    Tweeting an apology and mea culpa is no reason for a fine, and shows the manager is a bit of a buffoon.

  35. scott47a says:

    Any chance Jozy gets loaned back to Red Bull NY next summer, allowing him to finally get some damned playing time and getting Red Bull another draw for fans?

    Crazy idea?

  36. MVK says:

    He needs to grow up, seems he has forget what he was saying about making the most of every opperunity after that CR game. Athletes need to stay off twitter and myface, nothing but trouble; put down the controller and go practice some real ball Jozy.

    Hes not a “kid”, he is a professional and needs to grow up quick before its to late for real improvement.

  37. Indigo Montoya says:

    Yeah, what he said. I’m sure he’ll have plenty of time to “twitter” away his days now. It’s not the content of the “tweet,” it’s the context of airing the club’s private business without a prior approval.

    And, grow up, Jozy. You’re a freakin’ professional. Who cares if he’ll outlast Phil Brown or not, this is simply inexcusable behavior (being late) from a professional athlete.

  38. MVK says:

    hes all over twitter and facebook, playing video games etc… Dont blame a manager for wanting his players to have their heads on straight and to concentrate on the task at hand instead of a 140 character max multi-media update.

  39. Indigo Montoya says:

    Nobody has a “right” to practice self-aggrandizing behavior via twitter, whether he wanted to “apologize” to his fans or not. Show up on time and PLAY for your fans.

    I don’t find the extra punishment at all unusual – his club is in a relegation battle and he’s: 1) late, and 2) “tweeting” about it during the acutal match he should be playing in.

  40. Indigo Montoya says:

    …and he must pay the price for being late, like all of us would be made to pay.

    Come on, there’s no excuse, save for a death or accident, to be LATE TO YOUR OWN FREAKIN’ MATCH!!!

    Professionals are, and rightfully should be, given even less latitude regarding tardiness than others.

  41. MVK says:

    FIFA10 came out and all was forgotten…

  42. nate says:

    Phil Brown is leading the Prem sack race at only 2.75-1 odds to be next.

    Plus side is more time for the tanning bed.

  43. Rawr says:

    he doesnt need to be somewhere he can coast and still play, time for Jozy to man up and act like a professional

  44. Robert says:

    I doubt it means Jozy won’t stay with Hull. i think he’ll be sidelined for a month or so. Hull can’t afford not to have a quality striker on the bench for too long. Maybe Jozy will move on in January… or Brown. What Bradley did in Germany was much worse and directed at the club/manager. This was just careless teenage behavior.Hull will be relegated this season. Last year was a fluke.

  45. Joamiq says:

    “What’s Twitter?” Phil Brown had to ask. “He’ll be disappointed he did that. It’s unacceptable behaviour.”

    So the buffoon doesn’t even know what it is, but it’s unacceptable. You could almost hear him cackle with glee when he said “It’s going to cost him a lot of money!”

    Forget firing him as manager, this man needs to be removed from the gene pool.

  46. Peter Allen says:

    Fred MacMurray?!?!?!

    Of ALL people, YOU should know that boys will be boys…what with your three sons and all.

  47. inkedAG says:

    Jozy…get it done on the field, not online.

  48. vic says:

    wow, PhiBro doesnt even know what twitter is. Once he looks into it, he’ll see that jozy wasnt even criticizing the manager. Expect him to play, whether its the same manager or not.

  49. YO says:

    I think Brown lost confidence on Jozy during the second game as he failed to impress, then the dinosaur came in and has been on the starting lineup.

    It is amazing, most players live for a chance to play in the great leagues, and this kid is willing to throw it all away by being late.

  50. Seth says:

    Not a good move by Jozy, but common Phil Brown. I read a diffrent article about the incident and they quoted Brown as saying he wanted to keep the reason for Jozy getting in trouble “in house,” but this is the manager who kept his team on the field at half-time to humilate them in front of their fans. Way to keep it in house Phil. The guys is nuts. I thought Jozy going there was a bad idea in the first place.

  51. KungFuSoccer says:

    If Jozy tweets an apology for tweeting an apology, I believe at that point his days are numbered.

  52. Al_OC says:

    Ahh…the mystery is finally resolved. Brown is using the headphones to get twitter updates!

  53. MrTuktoyaktuk says:

    I’m worried that Brown’s public statements mean that he’s already decided that Altidore is a bad fit. JA needs playing time. It’s going to be hard enough getting on the pitch while JHV is in form. Now, probably no chance.

  54. David says:

    Jozy is the striker with the most upside on Hull but it is up to him to prove it. Most people don’t have much respect for Phil Brown but the fact of the matter is he is the manager that lead Hull to the top flight for the first time in the teams history. He isn’t going anywhere and even if it is a bit excessive to be upset about Altidore’s apology on Twitter it doesn’t change the fact that Jozy was late in the first place.

  55. Rufus Firefly says:

    Jozy and all these other self-important idiots should forego the “tweets” and spend more time getting in shape and sharpening their skills. I think if I were the manager, I would bench anyone on my team who opened a Twitter account.

    Now, since such foolishness apparently is part and parcel of the current sports world, I think Jozy’s manager overreacted.

  56. BSU SC says:

    He’s 19 years old, give him a break. I know that he’s a professional athlete, and should be punished for tardiness, but the coach is acting like a baby.

  57. Ghost of Clint Dempsey says:

    Look on the bright side, if his “days are numbered” he will go to another team where he will be playing. In fact I hope this happens because he NEEDS to be playing.

  58. Fire BB says:

    Jozy, you’re a professional. You’re getting paid stupid loot to play a game for a living. Show up on time.

    End rant.

  59. Spectra says:

    I’m guessing that Ives has been watching Hull’s games this season. They look lost and Phil Brown is being arrogant about it. Let’s see you’re in the relegation zone and you look terrible every game. Even the games that you try to bunker down and get a tie your team looks inept. The coach will be on the hot seat if this continues or is that the “hot headset”?

  60. mcjones says:

    I don’t get the problem. Media would have asked why Jozy did not play after the game anyway. What is the big deal?

  61. Wes says:

    I bet he’s at Hull longer than Phil Brown.

  62. Spectra says:

    good one

  63. The Hammer says:

    Jozy, how can you be late to a Primiership match? If I ever had enough talent to be on a team like that you can bet I would be early to every practice and match. He is a professional. Professional should be on time. What happens on the team stays on team. I have no problem with the fine.

  64. I’m starting to realize why ‘ull city aren’t very good. They bother themselves with this nonsense. Do you think the Bengals care if OchoCinco tweets a lot? The KID offered an appolgy for being late. I’d consider that taking responsibility for your actions and being responsible. He’s also showing accountability to the loyal supports of Hull. Brown’s an idiot. Maybe he should coach NY Red Bulls

  65. Yinka Double Dare says:

    Phil Brown is a pudwhack. Suspending Altidore for being late is not only appropriate, it’s the right thing to do. But I fail to see how it’s private business. Especially when it comes from a manager who dressed his team in public last year.

    Not only that, but Jozy was apologizing for his lateness. And now no one will wonder why he didn’t dress either — everyone would agree with him being benched for tardiness. Like it or not, Hull’s a Premiership team and player discipline is never going to be a truly private matter in that league. Too many people interested, and too much betting money flying around.

  66. Jags98 says:

    Yes the Bengals do care and so does the NFL.

  67. Joamiq says:

    Everything you said is right, but I’m really just commenting to point out that you have the best username on this site.

  68. FLUFF HEAD says:

    well, that answers my question from the other day when i asked, why didn’t jozy dress….
    His days at Hull could be numbered? Really? Over a tardy and a tweet???? That seems uber harsh, but I guess I’m no pro footballer or coach.

  69. peaceful assembly says:

    Why doesn’t he just quit? His boss is an ass and he doesn’t get to play, so what’s the point? He’s only 19 so there’s plenty of time to play in Europe. Jozy should stay in MLS until a team that actually wants him offers him a job.

  70. Dominghosa says:

    Oh, yeah, and nice rhyme on the headline there Franco.

  71. Jake Oliver says:

    Phil Brown doesn’t exactly have a reputation for being a “player’s coach.” Last season against Man City they went in to halftime down 4-0. He wouldn’t let them go into the locker room and proceeded to chew the team out on the pitch in front of the visiting Hull fans. After a hot start last season the club has gone down hill. I think it’s not long till he gets the sack.

  72. gerald says:

    yes but he wasn’t playing in Spain either

  73. RedLine55 says:

    Thank you for saying this! I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that this might be one of the best SBI headlines of ALL TIME. Jozy may go somewhere else. Phil Brown may go back to telemarketing. But this headline will ALWAYS be legendary.

  74. Judging Amy says:

    Come on now, SBI is the best US soccer site on the web and you want to pick on Ives for what is in your opinion an exaggeration? Why don’t you start up your own flawless, completely objective blog devoid of all speculation and/or opinion? I promise we’ll all read it.

  75. d-bar says:

    I don’t know the answer, but does Hull have a policy regarding Twitter (et. al.)? Or do they have a policy about commenting on personnel decisions? If so, then Jozy was in violation (whether or not it was only to apologize). If not, then Hull may be overreacting, but I certainly wouldn’t complain if I was Jozy. Either way, pay the fine, show up on time, work hard, and move on.

  76. obvious reply says:

    no. Please remind us.

  77. patrick says:

    while dumb, I’m glad he got in trouble for trying to do the “right” thing after he messed up but, why the hell is he late for a game?!?!

  78. attenborough says:

    Without having ever coached a single minute of soccer in my entire life I can say with full confidence that I am a better coach than Phil Brown. Unless I had to wear the headset, then I might be just as bad.

  79. smokeminside says:

    Altidore should get out of there as fast as he can. The team’s bad, the coach is looney, and the kit’s colors are among the worst in the universe.

  80. bf says:

    on that note… I think some of these young guys need an agent/nanny sent over to keep them from acting stupid. Sending updates on twitter is cool if its approved by your team, coach, and/or agent. Right now Altidore and Adu are twitter happy but riding the pine (albeit for different reasons).

    I think Phil Brown may be out of line and out of touch, but hopefully Jozy will learn that being a professional isn’t just about how you play on the field. Notwithstanding, I hope this doesn’t kill his confidence and he continues to improve.

  81. r.benjamin says:

    Hull is not scoring goals and by most accounts Altidore has potential to be a quality striker at that level. I doubt the Hull fans will be quiet if Altidore sits for too long.

    Same as in the NFL when a young good QB prospect is sitting on a team that’s not winning.

  82. smokeminside says:

    Not to make light of Altidore’s being late; he blew it. He’ll learn from it. But the coach is still whacked.

  83. OmarVizquel says:

    Reading Twitter posts makes me feel like a creep. Currently, Jozy is trying to get a local girl’s number so they can “chill.” She said back: “Unfortunately not.”

    Isn’t it weird to be broadcasting your life — unfiltered — to the public??

  84. bf says:

    Agreed… to a point. While his words were innocuous, he at least should have checked with someone before posting his comments publicly. While fans may love the inside scoop, as a professional athlete he needs to learn a little about PR. If he had made the same comment to reporter before the game I think he would have receive the same punishment. It just demonstrates his lack of maturity.
    Hull fans are already mad at Brown for not playing one of their most expensive signings, so why not let Brown answer why Altidore did not dress? He is just using this whole thing to deflect much deserved criticism for his player selection. Isn’t part of a manager’s role to make sure his investments pay off?

  85. metrostar 4 life says:

    that is NUTS. Brown and Hull are GARBAGE. Jozy did the right thing apolgizing, why on Earth would Brown be ticked off? Makes no sense at all there must be something we don’t know.

  86. OmarVizquel says:

    By the way, I guarantee if Jozy HADN’T twittered the apology (and reason for not making the bench), Phil Brown would not have blinked before explaining to the media that Jozy was late, and therefore not on the bench. “In-house” my rear-end. Brownie is the guy who scolded his players ON THE PITCH (in the cold, mind you) during half-time last season.

    Twitter issues aside, Jozy is the starting striker for a World Cup-bound national team, and Brown gives him 20 minutes every now and then for a team that desperately needs goals and muscle.

    The fans are fed up, and one assumes the players don’t have much time for Brown’s self-serving antics.

  87. mike says:

    haha, one thing Ive learned about these guys following there tweets is that they’re not very professional. Freddy is in love with the “fame” soccer has given him, not the game as he always claims..

  88. joel says:

    not the first time this dumb mistake has been made

    jozy needs to wise up and I have no doubt he will

  89. Kofix5 says:

    Bottom line – show up half hour early for practice and team meetings. Always unless doing something else team related then show up 10 minutes early no exceptions ever

    The tweet is a bullcrap tack on punishment BUT if tweets are frowned upon then don’t do it. Harsh lesson but learned. Surely.
    Phil’s nature is showing. Josh should be on the field every game anyways.
    He’s partially responsible for 1 or 2 of their 4 goals this season. Phil can go suck his mic.

    Jozy has plenty class. But he’s young and has much to
    learn. Focus and put in extra time every moment possible and he will find the field
    Otherwise lalalala

  90. jdavids says:

    Dammit Jozy. Lazy, stupid, selfish. This proves rumors about him lacking professionalism. This is a job and when you screw up early you’re in the doghouse. Phil Brown is a dud but no excuse for this on Jozy’s part.

  91. Kofix5 says:

    Jozy is responsible. For half of their goals. Last I heard, anyway. He needs to double his work ethic. We are all blues by Charlies accident but now it’s on his broad shoulders
    Make it happen J. Put more time in. Fight and win your starting spot

  92. Never First says:

    Not a big deal. He pays the fine and he learns a very important lesson. Twitter will only get you in trouble. Hopefully, he learns to be on time too.

    I think Brown was completely justified in his statements. It was an innocent mistake by Altidore but definitely a mistake. Don’t tell the public team business

  93. alex says:

    If these guys don’t know what twitter is, then who told them about Jozy’s tweet?

  94. Joamiq says:

    He is not “all over twitter and facebook”. This is one of the biggest myths that has emerged over the past few days. Jozy makes far, far less use of either platform than most kids his age do. It’s actually kind of disappointing for those who thought these would be good ways to follow one of their favorite athletes more closely.

    And Brown didn’t even know what Twitter was, so his condemnation is just idiotic.

  95. ga-gone says:

    So in two weeks Jozy’s gone from learning big life lessons as Charlie Davies nearly DIES after being out hours after team curfiew.

    Jozy speaks about how it makes him realize career, life, etc can be taken away in an instant.

    Fast-forward a few weeks and he’s texting while driving and showing up late for games.

    Learned a lot, huh Jozy?

  96. Joamiq says:

    Probably a reporter.

  97. Joamiq says:

    Apologizing is a mistake? What was the team business exactly? His being late was his business, and it would have been known within an hour of the match ending anyway. Hardly team business.

  98. JR says:

    Brown should have tweeted an apology for subjecting fans to that game. They bunkered for 90 minutes at home against the 20th place team in the Premiership. It was one of the worst games in the history of the league. How about Brown take some criticism for that?

  99. advocat says:

    Compare to J Spector who by all accounts is an immaculate professional. And he has been since signing at ManU when he was a teenager. He is hitting the books when not practicing. He made big money at a young age and with a big club. He is a fixture in the EPl already. When he is healthy, he plays. This is the way his parents raised him. This is what the SoCCERS taught him.

  100. CSD says:

    Random Hull fact of the day. People from Hull are called “Hullensians”

    Hopefully Jozy learns from this whole event. Unfortunately crap like this can follow a player throughout his career and he can start to develop a bad rep. The manager does seem like a worthless a’hole but he is the manager and you have to pretend like you respect him so you can go to another club someday you enjoy more and pretend you like that manager also. If you get lucky one day someone will pay you a lot to write a book and talk about how much you disliked all of the managers you played for. Unfortunately Jozy might twitter all of this thoughts before he can get to that point.

  101. booboo says:

    Regardless of what one thinks about Phil Brown and/or tweeting, the biggest issue is that Jozy showed up late.
    That is absolutely inexcusable for someone who has been riding the pine a lot lately. It doesn’t matter how much Hull paid for him. Jozy has to get his act together before he ends up in Adu’s situation.

  102. booboo says:

    oh, and the simple fact that Jozy was texting while driving… two weeks after the Davies incident… sigh…
    I’ve lost a lot of respect for the kid. A lot.

    Get your sh** together, Jozy. Please. This is your life and career, not a video game.

  103. jimmygreaves says:

    Before Twitter, we used to THINK that athletes were spoiled and stupid.

    Now with Twitter we KNOW that they are.

  104. jimmygreaves says:

    The reason Hull is terrible is because the team strip is a bad knock off of the Wolves’ classic strip.

  105. madmax says:

    I’ve watched Hull play a few times and being released would be a gift to Jozy if he could settle in quickly somewhere else. If they both stay, it may be wasted year.

    I’m not sure playing for a team fighting relegation is good for developing football skills. The same with Michael Bradley, Gladbach may have been a step up from the Dutch league but fighting relegation every day collars one’s abilities.

  106. Nutmegger says:

    Has anyone discovered WHY Jozy was late? What was the “mistake” he referenced in his tweet?

    To me that is the story.


  107. Hef says:

    Jozy needs to put his head down and just work…he walks around too much when he’s on the field…he’s young and atheltic he should be pressuring everyone and using his physicality to make things happen for his team like he did against Costa Rica in DC. That was a inspired performance…needs to bring that type of mentality to Hull.

    As for Phil Brown…he needs to give his headset back to Britney Spears. While Brown is here though…Jozy needs to step it up to win back his favor.

  108. martha says:

    Its apparent he has some attitude problems. There were problems with his training when he was with Red Bulls, Problems when he was a t Xerex and now this. Three times makes it apparent its the player and lack of comittment to training.

    He will be back in MLS next year

  109. ko'd says:

    My thoughts EXACTLY. In fact, this is the most insightful post of the entire thread.

    He goes out against Costa Rica and plays with more energy than I have EVER seen him play with–running down balls, getting stuck in where he can.

    And then he forgets all of those “make the most of your opportunities” and “don’t take anything for granted” life lessons. WHERE IS HIS MENTOR? (actually, the better question is, does he have a mentor?).

  110. ko'd says:

    And while I don’t like him much, I would love to see a guy like Wynalda get in there and provide some guidance. (and yes, I realize I will get heat for that comment, but I can take it.)

  111. wally says:

    Jozy made a mistake. Showing up late on game day is bad. He should learn his lesson and never show up late again on game day for the rest of his carreer. The tweeting showed a lack of judgment.

    But seriously, the notion that this should lead to his days being numbered with Hull seems like absurd over-reaction. Fine the kid, give him his lumps, and put him back on the fricking field.

  112. JCC says:

    It’s a lame excuse to blame the mistake he made on his age. You didn’t hear or read about Aguero, Messi, etc doing stupid stuff like this when they were 19.

  113. Brendan says:

    Kinda shocked at how little sympathy people here have for Brown in this situation. Altidore needs to learn that certain business stays in the locker room, and if it is made public it’s management’s perogative to decide when and how. The only people Altidore owed an apology to were his teammates and his manager, going public via twitter looks like an attempt to hijack the conversation (which is exactly what has now happened).

    People may argue that this is unfair, but most professional managers won’t have time for fringe players who show up late to games and then spend their time engaging in private PR.

  114. RK says:

    Nicole is 100% correct. Phil Brown has indicated nowhere that this will compromise Jozy’s standing with the team. To say otherwise is overegging the custard.

  115. Lil' Zeke says:

    I don’t know man, I think Jozy’s days could be numbered. But I think he’ll make the 18 a few more times just as a tease.

  116. Lil' Zeke says:

    Enough already with the self-important blogging. Don’t you have some job you should be practicing for?

  117. booboo says:


  118. booboo says:

    very true, especially since this isn’t Altidore’s first season as a pro. He should have learned a few things training alongside JPA. Maybe he did, but let’s hope he shows it from here on out.

  119. jackie says:

    Jozy Altidore’s days at Hull City could be numbered


    where did u get that from?

  120. Dude says:

    Dumb move Bro, the game was still playing and he had already spoken to the media by tweeting, before any one at the club even did. That IS unacceptable

  121. smokeminside says:

    They didn’t have twitter when those guys were 19. And we have no idea whether they were ever late or not because WE JUST DON’T KNOW.

    Yes, he was late; only because of modern technology do we know that. Otherwise we’d all be wondering why a dog-bad team like Hull isn’t starting one of our most favored “sons.”

    But every other report about his bad attitude and behavior that I know of has been extremely vague. If there are quotes out there from his current and former coaches saying he has a bad attitude, lazy work ethic, and is a discipline problem, by all means, let’s see them.

    I hope this blows over. I really don’t understand why we hold him, or any other athlete, up to such a high standard. What difference does his profession make? I guess I’d submit that he’s one of soccer’s royal family and the rules for royalty are different, until they’re NOT different, which seems to be what Brown is trying to tell him. But maybe not enough people ARE telling him that the rules are the same for everyone, even him, and even though it would obviously be for his own good. Maybe he does need a mentor.

    I remain puzzled about why some of us here are so angry with him for being late. Are we worried for his future because we know repeated behavior like that will make it hard for him, and the team(s) he plays for? Is it that when he makes a mistake like this (minor though I think it is) it looks like he’s pissing his life away but not taking it more seriously?

  122. OmarVizquel says:

    Hey Ives: do you think you’ll ever move from being — for all intents and purposes — a reporter to adopting more of a commentator stance? I’d love to hear your take on a story like this, instead of reporting on it and then opening up the floor for discussion. And ETA on that podcast you mentioned in a Q&A recently? Give the people what they want: the public wants more IVES.

  123. OmarVizquel says:

    And ETA = Any ETA*

  124. Leon says:

    this is total sensationalism and i’m disappointed in SBI which is a site i frequent regularly, more disappointed in the bashing of nicole who was dead on. but, to be fair, ives did not write this post. anyway, i follow hull city religiously. no one has ever said his days could be numbered, it’s a season long loan…. and although phil brown can be somewhat petty if you’ve looked at the link above phil brown’s made a point of putting out to the media (as he loves to do) that altidore will have the same chance as anyone else for a place on the squad.

  125. Pico says:


    Tactfulness knows no generational differences. Like someone mentioned above, he should have cleared it with a team rep if it was OK to do it.

  126. DC Josh says:

    Not smart Jozy. You are on the bottom of the totem pole now. Good luck working your way up. Get your act together!

  127. Michael F. - SBI Mafia Original says:

    Still can’t believed he showed up late. Very disappointed. He should be eating, sleeping, and breathing Hull City and sleep at the stadium. Take a page from the Peter Vermes book of dedication.

  128. Nicole says:

    Judge someone else, Miss Amy.

    No. 1 – I was going to point out that Ives didn’t write this, but thanks to Leon, he already did.

    No. 2 – Of course I think this is a great blog, one of the best on the Internet, which is why I was so disappointed in the”exaggeration” as you so delicately put it. I would hate for this blog to turn into an “MLE Rumours” or worse.

    No. 3 – They’re all big boys here and a little constructive criticism never hurts. What’s good for the players is good for the writers here.

    No. 4 – Speaking of players: Jozy messed up big time. I’m hoping he responds appropriately and works hard and makes up for it.

  129. Dan Menges says:

    When has twittering ever been Cool?

  130. RedStateJim says:

    If I were the manager of any professional team, I would ban twitter, facebook, myspace, et al, use during the season. It seems to be a problem across many leagues and it can create disunity on team. It is another form of press access which is usually controlled by the team during the season. The athletes need to be concerned about their profession, not needing to be “in touch” with their fans. It is self promotion above the team in most cases.

    Lesson learned for Jozy. Phil Brown will be gone in a month, let us hope that a new manager will play Jozy with regularity. He can’t score goals for Hull from the bench.

  131. Nicole says:

    Mike, you are exactly right, especially when it comes to Freddy. That guy has accomplished NOTHING in soccer, yet acts like he’s a rock star.

  132. TB says:

    Wait… they will kick Jozy off the team for this? That sounds a little far-fetched. Is this true?

  133. Barry U says:

    This is all BS. Being late is not good. But the rest of it is crap. Tweet or no Tweet. In house or not. CRAP. Phil Brown is a joke. Sorry Jozy went to that place but hopefully Brown will want to save his job anf play the kid.

    Jozy has had his moments in the little time that he has been given in my opinion. Brown was keeping Giovanni on the bench early this season and he probably is their best player. Give the kid playing time and all this will be a memory. The way Jozy played over the summer tells you he can play for Hull. Get JVH out and put Jozy in. Hell this team went with Craig Fagan and Caleb Folan all last year and Jozy is not good enough? CRAP.

  134. soccerroo says:

    You are right i did miss it in the first sentence. However I still think that this is what makes the site great. He ask questions, promts discussion. Lets take a look at a few things that make it a legit question.

    One when was the last time Jozy played a full game? Has this become something the coach holds against Jozy? Are coaches know to alienate players for weird issues like this? Is Brown a coach who would do that?

    It think Brown is the type coach who would put him on the shelf. Jozy is not yet a player that has to be on the field all th time. Even Beckham was put on the shelf for a while at Real Madrid because he was not coming back to the team. So i think there are several reason and scenarios(sp) that could see him not be used or even end the loan and the winter break.

    So was it sensational, maybe but I do not think so and it defenitely dose not bring into question his credibility or the websites.

  135. Pico says:

    As much as people dislike and disagree with Phil Brown, he is the manager and he decides to run the team the way he sees fit. If his methods fail, it is his job to loose. It happens in all sports. Teams try to keep player issues in house and most have guidelines about how their players should address the press and the public about such things.

    There are plenty of instances where the most ‘vocal’ players in a team (i.e. T.O, Gary Sheffield, etc) have gotten themselves in trouble and caused disruption in the clubhouse.

    Now, I am not saying that Jozy is like those players, but regardless of his age, he should learn about tactfulness and ask his team what is permitted and what is not before shooting those messages. Technology has made it very easy to put yourself out there for your fans, but he is a public figure now and he represents his team (both club and country) and he should be more careful about what he does.

    Like someone mentioned in a previous post, he should have been apologizing to his teammates, his coach for his tardiness. Hopefully he can get his priorities straight.


  136. Dominghosa says:

    legen … wait for it …

  137. wildchild says:

    Altidore was served a lesson in power and control. Know your role or pay the price! lol