137 responses

  1. Jamez
    June 27, 2010

    Wow we are in for a treat those are some very attack minded line ups especially Mexico .

  2. Simple Jack
    June 27, 2010

    God I hate Mexico and Argentina. So I guess it is go Argentina!

  3. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    I’m rooting for Mexico but expecting an Argentina win.

    3-0

  4. Aquaman
    June 27, 2010

    I don’t claim to be an expert on the Mexican team or league, but if you’re a Mexican fan wouldn’t you rather see Ochoa in there instead of Perez? Has he really fallen off that much?

  5. Simple Jack
    June 27, 2010

    Why would you root for our archenemies? Unless your from there?

  6. R
    June 27, 2010

    Go Mexico!!

  7. Simple Jack
    June 27, 2010

    It is sad that they can’t both lose.

  8. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    good to see mexico doing their gay little semi-fascist-looking salute during the anthem again LOL

  9. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    Bofo Bautista? really??!?

  10. Never First
    June 27, 2010

    Why would any American not cheer for a fellow CONCACAF team?

  11. LittleMaradona
    June 27, 2010

    Hey Mexico, suck it and keep on sucking.

  12. LittleMaradona
    June 27, 2010

    3-1 I think

  13. Aquaman
    June 27, 2010

    I would cheer for a fellow CONCACAF team if Honduras was still in it

  14. ec
    June 27, 2010

    Because they are the only other decent team in our federation and it will be hard for the US to improve if we don’t have a worthy opponent.

  15. CJ in OC
    June 27, 2010

    Mexico looks dangerous

  16. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    ask Cobi Jones

  17. Second City
    June 27, 2010

    Should be a fun game to watch.

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend, ergo: Cmon’ Argentina!

  18. Adriano
    June 27, 2010

    Am I the only one that feels that John Harkes is trying to prove to the world that he knows something about soccer.

    Listening to him makes me feel like he believes all the listeners are stupid.

  19. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Cuz I’m not racist! :P
    Why would I root for Argentina?
    And I’m full American!

  20. Second City
    June 27, 2010

    Seriously? Why wouldn’t they?

    How many times are we going to discuss this before it makes sense to your side of the debate?

  21. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Maybe…just maybe…he’s trying to explain stuff to NON SOCCER fans. Ya think? Probably not if you had ask.

    Have a nice day!

  22. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    It’s called freedom. :)

  23. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    mexico… que sigan chupando
    ;)

  24. Second City
    June 27, 2010

    Sorry, I’m not putting together what your response implies to anything I said.

  25. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Offsides!!! I guess harkes is an idiot for point that out eh?

  26. Adriano
    June 27, 2010

    He was SO far outside.

  27. Adriano
    June 27, 2010

    What’s your problem?

    Get off me kid.

  28. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    oh, here we go…. mexican players harassing the linesman and the referee…. some things never change

  29. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Dude, why ya pointing out the obvious to me? Are you trying to prove to me you know something about soccer??

  30. Adriano
    June 27, 2010

    Did you see how far offside Tevez was?

    He almost 3 yards offside.

  31. Paul
    June 27, 2010

    Wow, two MAJOR arguments in favor of goal-line technology in one day. Could this World Cup finally be the turning point in the debate?

  32. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    that might work, except harkesey doesn’t explain things very well

    univision mucho mejor ;)

  33. Adriano
    June 27, 2010

    You are unbelievably immature.

  34. Petaluman
    June 27, 2010

    Wow…lots of missed or bad calls by Refs. Mexico gets the shaft.

  35. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    jajajajajajaja

  36. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Two big clubs still thought, people will be talking about his for years. So No. FIFA is getting exactly what it wants.

  37. Gus Keri
    June 27, 2010

    I have never seen so many controvercial calls in one world cup. Ever.

  38. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    go through & This

  39. Never First
    June 27, 2010

    Absolutely disgraceful officiating. Any officials here? Is it really that difficult? I just don’t understand why it seems almost every match has been marred by a horrible decision.

  40. Dom K.
    June 27, 2010

    Clubs?

  41. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Ironic!

  42. Dom K.
    June 27, 2010

    Hey Shaggy, it’s 1-0.

    Just letting ya know.

  43. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    lol Nations. I totally fubar’d that post eh.

  44. Dom K.
    June 27, 2010

    Hey Shaggy, it’s 2-0 now.

    Just letting ya know.

  45. Petaluman
    June 27, 2010

    The implosion begins now. This could get ugly…

  46. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    the camera just popped Heinze in the face. and he popped it back

  47. Second City
    June 27, 2010

    Any idea if Argentina knows they’re playing a self-proclaimed super power within the world of football?

    Surely, the scoreline isn’t correct.

  48. LittleMaradona
    June 27, 2010

    Why do they even play the games if the refs are going to let Argentina have a free goal or let Luis Fabiano score after two handballs?

  49. Paul
    June 27, 2010

    Argentina could win this World Cup without Messi getting a single goal!

  50. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    I see a red card in Rafa’s future ;)

  51. Never First
    June 27, 2010

    OK. I’m confused. I guess this was sarcasm, but I’ve never discussed this topic before. I was just asking a question. I think it helps the reputation of all CONCACAF teams when one does well, but that’s fine if you disagree. I like to think we have a friendly rivalry with Mexico, but obviously not everyone agrees.

  52. Second City
    June 27, 2010

    I’m a bit curious as to what happened as well?

    I can distinctly recall Mexican supporters claiming he was one of the best GK’s in the world and certainly the best within CONCACAF.

  53. Second City
    June 27, 2010

    Fair enough but it wasn’t sarcasm. This discussion has taken place ad nauseum on this board and many others.

  54. Pappajohn
    June 27, 2010

    At times I seem to be the resident soccer fan/expert in my office, neighborhood, social group, whatever. Everyone sees these obvious bad calls and says: “See, that’s why I don’t like soccer.” What am I going to tell them tomorrow when they ask about the obvious offsides goal by Argentina. Seconds after the “goal” the whole world (and probably everyone at the stadium)saw that it was obviously offsides. Why couldn’t the ref change the original decision. He knew it was wrong and the match was not yet resumed. Something must be done about this. The amazing, almost instantaneous digital replay technology is changing the way we see plays. It’s not hard to make the correct decision while the match is stopped.

  55. Paul
    June 27, 2010

    Oh hell yeah! A fight!

  56. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Thanks man. I’m dumb deaf and blind so I need all the help I can get.

    :) haha

  57. Slyboy
    June 27, 2010

    It sure takes the fun of it away doesn’t. The calls have been horrible

  58. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Allstate fubar’d that AD. Has Ochoa even played in the cup yet? ouch!

  59. This Guy
    June 27, 2010

    What does racism have to do with anything?
    Dumbest comment ever on here

    I don’t root for Mexico because they act just like they did when they just walked into the tunnel. Thugs.

  60. Thorpinski
    June 27, 2010

    I ref HS and Travel league play and being a ref is very difficult. Most offsides calls are simply missed because the AR is not even with the second to last defender. and the speed of the game is too fast for most 40+ year old refs to keep up with.

    As for the English goal that was not counted it’s very difficult for the AR or Center to make the call because niether are in position to make it.

    I think they should allow teams to have 2 challenges on goals scored and allow technology to be used.

  61. Paul
    June 27, 2010

    I’ve never seen so many contentious calls in a major tournament, and there may be more to come. It could be that this is the moment when Fifa is forced to reconsider its policy on replay technology. It’s up to the teams involved – and other teams, coaches, national bodies – to put pressure on Fifa. The majority of players, coaches and fans are already in favor of technology. Hopefully this World Cup marks a turning point.

  62. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    what is this? a brawl between the teams behind the benches on the way into the tunnel for halftime? why does this kind of thing always happen with mexico?

  63. This Guy
    June 27, 2010

    Why you making fun of Helen Keller?
    That’s racist

  64. This Guy
    June 27, 2010

    You’re right. The World should stop playing football.

  65. Mason
    June 27, 2010

    In order:
    1) Yes.
    2) Yes.
    3) The game at this level is faster than three officials can manage. Even at lower levels, all the way down to kids in the park ARs calling offside are required by the nature of the Laws of the Game to be looking at (at least) two things: ball and second to last defender. In a mixer/pinball situation like the first goal, determining who the second to last defender is becomes challenging.

    As for your unasked question: Because Sepp Blatter and the Football Committee are fools.

  66. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    No such thing as racism against white people. I read that on the internet.

  67. Slyboy
    June 27, 2010

    I would be beyond agitated with a call like that

  68. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    any reports of urine filled balloons being thrown yet?

  69. Chris
    June 27, 2010

    Mexico will fold like a cheap sombrero in the 2nd half, much like England

  70. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    Has arguing with a FIFA official or the other team ever resulted in an overturned call?

  71. Paul
    June 27, 2010

    Mexico and England have many of the same problems actually. Too many foreign players in their domestic league, serious drought of young talent, deluded fans and media…

  72. Benny
    June 27, 2010

    Have those Mexican supporter ever heard of the name Howard?

  73. Adriano
    June 27, 2010

    Chicarito and Dos Santos are studs.

  74. Gus Keri
    June 27, 2010

    Tevez just scored the goal of the tournament

  75. Mason
    June 27, 2010

    GOLAZO!

    (Did I do that right?)

  76. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    … que sigan chipango….

  77. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    er… chupando

  78. Fred Garvin
    June 27, 2010

    Mexico has been shut out of this match.. Regardless of the first goal.. Wow

    Mexico is sad.

  79. Paul
    June 27, 2010

    I’d say that they don’t produce enough young talent for a nation of their size and love for soccer. Neither does England.

  80. Adriano
    June 27, 2010

    Forget discipline.

    The Mexican players had every right to be absolutely fuming. What’s the point of having Laws of the Game if they are selectively enforced.

  81. CSD
    June 27, 2010

    I think it was pretty clear Argentina got the ball over the goal line, not sure what you have used goal line technology for on an off sides call.

  82. Gus Keri
    June 27, 2010

    In 1982, after France scored against Kuwait, the Prince of Kuwait came down to the pitch and threatened the referee to cancel the goal or he will pull his team out. The referee cancelled the goal and France went to win 4-1

  83. not europe
    June 27, 2010

    How many goals does DosSantos have in the WC? He’s a forward, right so shouldn’t he be scoring?

  84. CSD
    June 27, 2010

    After the second horrible call of the day I have moved on and haven’t decided when I will watch anymore of the World Cup. I was tempted to keep the game on and see how many Mexican players got red cards but I decided it was worth my time.

  85. not europe
    June 27, 2010

    Osorio’s give away on the second goal was Ricardo Clark-esque!

  86. Gus Keri
    June 27, 2010

    John Harkes keep saying that Maicon’s goal was a cross and not a shot.

    He should go and review the archieves. Maicon scored exactly similar goal 2 years ago against Portugal in a friendly. He is known to score these types of goal.

  87. frank from sf
    June 27, 2010

    are you secretly a mexican?! what about goals 2&3???. every game has questionable calls, it’s how you rise above them(usa?!). plus mexico should have expected for argentina to score atleast 1 or 2 goals, what have they done?

  88. Starla
    June 27, 2010

    Only losers blame the refs for their own shortcomings. The ref is the law. Deal with it.

  89. Benny
    June 27, 2010

    Mexico just unraveled like a candy wrapper. Once they face adversity, they fall apart; start fouling, start fights at half time, etc. Even though USA should be in the quarter finals, they will be one up on Mexico. They will always be one up on Mexico. Right now Mexico is in 16th place and the U.S. no less than 14h place. Mexico should take a page from the U.S. and learn how to play when there is adversity and not fall apart. Play with soome dignity, Mexico.

  90. Paul
    June 27, 2010

    Anyone think Chicarito will be a success in the EPL? I don’t think he’ll see a lot of time because of the way Man U set up with Rooney. He’ll have to do something special with what little time he gets.

  91. Benny
    June 27, 2010

    I meant “some”

  92. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    Feilhaber should have tried it yesterday

  93. Illmatic74
    June 27, 2010

    I like him as a player but i don’t think he is the level of player to be succesful at an elite club like Manchester United. I would think he would be more succesful inmid level La Liga team or a top team in a league like Holland.

  94. Paul
    June 27, 2010

    Something like that!

  95. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    2-1 Argentina

  96. Illmatic74
    June 27, 2010

    And as soon as I say that he scores but still doesn’t change my opinion.

  97. ShaggyReAL
    June 27, 2010

    Mexico, get 1 more goal….lol that’s all I ask

  98. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    i’ve never seen so many near-post goals than in this tournament. what ever happened to keepers protecting the near post? credit where is credit is due though — great turn and goal from el chicharito

  99. A.S.
    June 27, 2010

    Is Chicharito a leftie? That was a hell of a left foot.

  100. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    1986 was the first world cup i really followed, so was not aware of that decision. remarkable!

  101. Gus Keri
    June 27, 2010

    The Jabulani ball makes any left foot look like the right one. (pun intended)

  102. frank from sf
    June 27, 2010

    straight up, thanks for playing. next.

  103. Mason
    June 27, 2010

    Tim Howard also said that Maicon tried that on him during Confed Cup.

  104. Adicts
    June 27, 2010

    should be in the quarters….why?

  105. Stephen
    June 27, 2010

    Mexico can’t even lose with class. Complaining to the ref…granted a legitimate complaint, but still didn’t matter in the long run.

  106. JR
    June 27, 2010

    This mentality is why we will never win the cup, should have? No, we just don’t have the players to be at the elite level.

    Keep think mediocrity is success

  107. Stephen
    June 27, 2010

    Probably also has something to do with the fact that Heinze got literally thrown out of bounds by Chicharito right before the half.

  108. Freddy H.
    June 27, 2010

    It’s very classless of you to say que la sigan chupando dude back off! Because if thet’s the case then siganla chupando los Americanos also! So what’s your point? The Argentinians cheated to win the ’78 WC Cheated to win the’86 WC and cheated to win vs Mexico four years ago when a red card was not given to them by a tackle on Kikin! And they CHEATED again today. The US was cheated of two legitimate goals and England of one. Now you cannot compare the opponents Mexico faced than the ones the US faced. Right or wrong?

  109. JR
    June 27, 2010

    I agree, this is why Landycakes will always be a loser, keep blaming the refs landycakes(Slovenia).

  110. Porfirio Diaz
    June 27, 2010

    Oh yeah I forget that the US is known around the world because of it’s classiness! That is when you’re not invading countries or toppling governments…or both!

  111. JR
    June 27, 2010

    Look, we need to get rid of this loser mentality, the US has never been robbed only losers blame the ref. 2002 we were not cheated against Germany, 2006 we were not cheated against Italia, 2010 we were not cheated against Slovenia.

    Don’t be a Landycakes.

  112. Mike
    June 27, 2010

    Why would you bring politics into this, mexicanito?

    Worry about your drug-cartel plagued country then, muppet.

  113. JR
    June 27, 2010

    Same with the US, we have a population of 350 million people and yet to produced a good player. Maybe we need to naturalize some french players like Argentina(Higuain)

  114. junior
    June 27, 2010

    hey im mexican
    is it wrong for me to HATE mexico
    and go for usa??

  115. Bruce Arena
    June 27, 2010

    What does US Imperialism have to do with your loss?

  116. Illmatic74
    June 27, 2010

    We won’t win the World Cup soon because we don’t have the players simply that.

  117. JR
    June 27, 2010

    Nope, thats normal for a Mexicant, you are what the Aztecs called malinche, I think. We are a country that accepts the leftovers of other countrys. You are now a winner, leave you loser culture at the door.

  118. JR
    June 27, 2010

    Stay classy my friend, no need to sink to their level. Though you might have already.

  119. Second City
    June 27, 2010

    It doesn’t but that’s the internet for ya.

  120. Porfirio Diaz
    June 27, 2010

    The War against drugs is an AMERICAN WAR Mexico is unfortunately fighting. STOP inhaling and snorting so that Mexico may have peace! . Getting back to soccer thaere is not a single paper from Spain to Chile that doesn’t say that that first “goal” destroyed the game!

  121. Slyboy
    June 27, 2010

    Loser culture? …. wow…wow and wow, have this comment deleted

  122. JR
    June 27, 2010

    Or a winning mentality, lets face it, soccer gets the rejects of our other sports.

  123. JR
    June 27, 2010

    I don’t think he will, how many goals has this overrated kid scored, 1 lucky goal? Rooney on the other hand(Man Utd star) has… oh wait…maybe his tired…

  124. JM
    June 27, 2010

    I am Mexican and I comment in this forum once in a while, the reason I do is precisely because I find Ives to be not only an excellent moderator but tolerant of 99% of opinions and in no way shape or form a “hater” of Mexico. I’m sure he does not appreciate people like YOU putting words in his mouth and using his name in vain!

  125. Illmatic74
    June 27, 2010

    Well I root for Mexico when they play except when they play US.

  126. JR
    June 27, 2010

    I’m assuming this is towards me, maybe it wasn’t Ives but the hatred has been insinuated. I’ve always thought it was friendly.

  127. ChrisD
    June 27, 2010

    Mexico has a lot of young talent: dos Santos (21), Hernandez (22), Guarardo (23), and Barrera (23) all played well in this match. They won the U17 World Cup in 2005 (where Vela and dos Santos got the gold and silver boots) and just need these guys playing more regularly at the better Euro clubs.

    In contrast, Argentina fielded a team of topflight international players (only Otamendi plays domestically) surrounding three all-stars (Messi, Tevez, and Higuain). Their GK seems to be the sole weak spot.

    Mexico gave a good account of itself. They didn’t fold like a cheap sombrero or foul cynically, and pressed to the end against an unquestionably stronger team.

    With the exception of GK, Mexico seems in pretty good shape for Brazil 2014 with this group of young players. We have MB (22), Jozy (20), Edu (24), Holden (24), Torres (22), and Davies (23) if he recovers. But who are the current 16- to 19-year-old kids who might make the USMNT four years down the road?

  128. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    How can it be wrong when it feels so right?
    ;)

  129. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    I agree Ives is usually very fair and even-handed. Good luck to Mexico in the future. Tough call today with the offside goal. Sorry I clown your team so much — it’s just too easy and fun, especially given the history.
    Saludos a los Mexicanos!

  130. Brent McD.
    June 27, 2010

    I was just quoting Maradona’s response to his country’s press corps. Did you really think I was somehow referring to Mexico?
    ;)

  131. reverb
    June 27, 2010

    Feel bad for Guardado and Salcido who are 2 VERY classy, even tempered players. The rest of them no so much. And hey, Goodbye Cuautehmoc you stinkin turd!!

  132. joejoe
    June 27, 2010

    Mistakes killed Mexico. Too bad because it could have been a better game. But FIFA needs to deal with these blatant errors. One per game is too much. FIFA advocates fair play, how about fair officiating. I was watching TV Azteca interview with Aguirre post game. He mentioned that the officials admitted their mistake, the line judge felt bad, but they felt there was no way they could reverse once the call was made even though they could see the mistake shown in the video screen.

  133. Mason
    June 27, 2010

    Hmm… It seems like they may have seen it on the video screen, but that’s fruit of the poisonous tree, as far as FIFA is concerned. I wonder: Absent a replay in the stadium, If they’d been given a minute to chat, would they have figured it out?

  134. Soccernst
    June 27, 2010

    For an example of his slippage, see the goal Hercules Gomez put past, or rather through, Ochoa en route to his golden boot.

  135. John1
    June 27, 2010

    Watch the game again, and you will see.

  136. Brian
    June 27, 2010

    Tristan Bowen

  137. Jose
    June 28, 2010

    I don’t understand why they had Perez instead of Ochoa. The Ochoa kid is taller, and more able to get some of these long balls. I think Guardado is a very underrated player for Mexico.

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