USMNT settles for scoreless draw with Canada in final friendly before qualifying

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The U.S. men's national team may have been hoping to head into World Cup qualifying with a confidence-building win, but they instead finished their summer friendlies with a frustrating result.

The United States was held to a scoreless draw by Canada at BMO Field in Toronto on Sunday night in its third and final friendly before World Cup qualifying begins. The Americans struggled to create chances against a compact Canada side, and goalkeeper Tim Howard made a handful of saves to prevent the hosts from picking up their first win over the United States since 1985.

Canada did not have many quality looks either, but they saw a first-half goal waved off for a questionable Dwayne De Rosario foul on left back Edgar Castillo. Canada also missed a late chance to come out victorious when substitute Simeon Jackson missed a shot from point blank after De Rosario got by Michael Parkhurst on the left flank.

Clarence Goodson came closest to scoring for the United States in stoppage time, but Canucks goalkeeper Lars Hirschfeld swatted away his headed effort seconds before the final whistle.

Castillo, who was given a late start after Fabian Johnson picked up a knock in pre-game warmups, also had a chance in the first half to break the deadlock before Hirschfeld parried away his volleyed effort from distance.

Playing in their third friendly in nine days, the United States was not able to create the number of chances that it had in a loss to Brazil and a lopsided victory over Scotland. Canada's midfield pressured the Americans and the hosts' back four stayed compact and disciplined.

U.S. head coach Jurgen Klinsmann started Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey together for the first time since he took over. But the American duo were not able to muster much in the way of offense as Canada closed in on them quickly to prevent the quick combination passes that the U.S. team demonstrated in the two prior friendlies.

The United States will next take on Antigua and Barbuda at Raymond James Stadiun in Tampa Bay, Fla. on June 8 to start its World Cup qualifying campaign.


What do you think of the United States' 0-0 draw with Canada? Who impressed/disappointed you? Are you feeling good about the team's style of play as the head into World Cup qualifying?

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195 Responses to USMNT settles for scoreless draw with Canada in final friendly before qualifying

  1. Roger says:

    Is the US the second best team in Concacaf?

  2. Jamie says:

    Biggest Gooch fan out there, thought he played well today and highlighted his strengths-with that being said Goodson earned the right to start against Antigua and Barbuda. He was solid today, arguably MOTM, as he was against Italy(solid, not man of the match). That does not mean Gooch doesn’t have a chance to start in the future or doesn’t deserve to be on the squad.

    Terrible, terrible game though. Don’t want to read too much into it, but yikes…might look even worse if Canada goes into Cuba and lays an egg like they very well might do.

    To the person who mentioned that Hoilett was at the game-where’d you here that?

  3. Alan says:


  4. pancholama says:

    A let down.
    Generally poor, sloppy soccer football all around.

  5. Louis Z says:

    Note to JK…don’t over train your boys…apparently they can’t take it.

  6. john says:

    They showed him on the canadian broadcast

  7. maka says:

    If the Miami Heat lose, then tonight is still a good night regardless of soccer results.

    Oh, and Canada needs a striker to hook up with DeRo.

  8. Illmatic74 says:

    And the end of the day this game meant nothing but, you can’t be encouraged by a performance like that against a team that poor.

  9. Haydenjo says:

    I don’t get why Torres plays so much.
    His passing was terrible,
    Also he slows the attack up.

  10. Shawn says:

    Not sure how the foul was ‘questionable.’ The feed I saw showed the kick to Castillo’s shin was quite firm. In any case, the whistle was blown and the defenders had stopped well before the shot was taken.

    I thought Jones was a disaster, I’m not sure he contributed one meaningful play the entire match. Then to see Edu placed in the advanced MF position again was frustrating, the results were predictable, as he doesn’t handle playing that high well.

    Castillo did not play poorly, given he wasn’t expecting to start. But it’s clear there’s a substantial gap between Fabian Johnson and whomever else plays LB. Still, he didn’t create any Bornstein-like disasters.

    Dolo also looked gassed, and I don’t think Parkhurst is an adequate replacement @ RB.

    In general, a disappointing match on many levels, and I can’t think of 1 player’s performance on the pitch for the US I could really say I was pleased with, with the possible exception of Goodson.

  11. squirt-lover says:

    Not having Fabian really effected how the US played. They were static and predictable. The speed, agility, creativity, and fearlessness he provides was sorely missed, and resembled BB’s era.

    Deuce never found his stride. Donovan looked like he was having a “non-passionate” game, and Jozy never became dangerous.

    Everyone looked tired and not interested. Even MB looked unimpressive.

    We will be fine, but it shows how easily we can return to what we once were…or what we still are!

  12. AG says:

    At least the US fans were the loudest of the supporters group.

  13. Yellow Submarine says:


  14. kevin_amold says:

    Pretty dire stuff. Tough to watch.

  15. dman says:

    so if this was tournamentesk…

    I’m not sure we would have made it out of our group.

  16. Yellow Submarine says:

    DeRo was the best player on the field tonight.

  17. Spencer says:

    Very poor game all around except for the one or two already mentioned. We desperately need Johnson and I don’t think it is a stretch to call him the most influential player on the team. All the top teams have world class backs, and he is ours and it makes the team that much more dangerous when you have them making runs. Castillo looked awful, is it too late to call Lichaj

  18. tacklebreaker says:

    I was very unimpressed with Parkhurst. He was either passing back or passing off target.

  19. Dcm says:

    Man, two hours completely fn wasted, and on a sunday! No one even deserves a mention, the whole team was toothless. Welcome the return of the usmnt from 2006! Might as well call up eddie johnson.

  20. divers suck says:

    Have to concur with the majority….A complete BOREFEST!

  21. Mike says:

    Breaking News: Michael Bradley and Landon Donovan have gone missing. They were last seen at the start of the USA – Canada soccer match. Local hospitals be on alert, two men may have choked on Canadian Bacon, which is just ham.

    Pathetic. Bradley completely took himself out of the game. There were times when he was further back than the centerbacks. Inexcusable.

    He played so well against Brazil and Scotland. So well.

  22. Bumby Hemmingway says:

    What a snoozefest.

    The lack of creativity from the central midfield was on display tonight.

  23. Aquaman says:

    Luckily, Canada never put together the fact that Castillo was rarely, if ever, back defending.

  24. joejoe says:

    It was a friendly. The starting eleven is closer to the Brazil lineup, except maybe for Gooch. Klingsman was using this game to give some play time to the rest of the players. However this game showed that the team has no depth.

  25. Benny says:

    Mama mia, we go through this every cycle, guys. At the end of the hex, the U.S. will be in first. Every year it’s the same deal with you guys. Save your stones until the WC qualifications. The U.S. will be fine.

  26. Sabella says:

    This was an uninspired performance. It was as if they were playing together for the first time. I can only hope it was due to fatigue and that they take it up a notch when it matters.

  27. boosted335 says:

    Goodson showed how’d to own a spot on the team. BE AGGRESSIVE. To get beat is bad and that will happen to but to play like a pus is inexcusable (looking at you Cameron, Ream, and lesser extent Gooch* and even Boca* of late.

    *not this game

    It will be Boca and Goodson to get the majority of minutes for qualifying. I expect to see Gooch and Cameron only late with the game in hand. For the teams sake I hope they perform when called on but either way you better believe Klinnsmann will have George John on the roster next available friendly. We need players like John who can deliver aggressive dominant performances CONSISTENTLY…speaking of being consistent I hope Goodson can start being that. We NEED him to be this month or we’re not going to Brazil.
    In regards to the offense…the fans in Toronto said it best….SHOT THE PUCK! lol

  28. Tony in Quakeland says:

    Bradley was so far back because Dempsey was so far back. When your forward is thirty yards behind his strike partner, it clogs up the middle.

  29. boosted335 says:

    please excuse the typos spell & grammar nazi’s

  30. squirt-lover says:

    I thought Castillo looked bad, especially in the first half. He turned it over in dangerous spots several times.

  31. Goalscorer24 says:

    Supposedly during these games the US has been doing two a day practices. I think it showed today. Hopefully JK gives them some rest, and they come out hungry on Friday.

  32. PD says:

    It might be more fair to say that when he’s on the field he is a player that creates the tipping point where there are too many threats to cover; you can only double-team so many players.

    It was a disappointing result. When I tuned in at the 50th minute I was hoping to see a pissed-off US side looking to prove a point, instead I saw a lot of running around and chasing long balls not a lot of thinking and build-up. No mojo whatsoever. Really thought Canada was gonna get that goal in the 88th…

    This is exactly what we can expect from everyone in CONCACAF.

    Plus Mexico beat Brazil 2-0. That’s gotta sting a bit.

  33. divers suck says:

    I’m a little puzzled why all the attention by the commentators was about that foul and supposed goal taken away from Canada. Arlo and Kyle kept bringing it up and as you said the whistle was blown long before the shot was taken on goal.

    As for Jones. I’m getting a little sick of all the negativity about him. He’s arguably our toughest player and is the least afraid to mix it up and show some toughness while virtually all of our team seems too timid. He can play pretty good ball too! I’d hate to have him as an opponent and glad he’s on the USA side.

  34. Lost in Space says:

    Was not impressed with the USMNT tonight at all. Dolo (Parkhurst) and Castillo were not providing width…making it very easy for the Canadian team to clog the center.
    For this very reason I think that Lichaj and Chandler need to be with the squad moving forward. That gives us 4 quality attacking outside backs with speed.
    Still need to find options at CB…Gooch, Boca, and Goodson were very exposed to speed.

  35. away goals says:

    Well what are we supposed to do with all these stones in the meantime?

    I could maybe do some light landscaping I guess.

  36. jmc says:

    Klinsman said he wanted to treat these games like a tournament. Start with a win, then a loss, and an uninspired goal-less performance when you are trying to make it through to the knockout phase. I’d say say we’re in our typical WC form already.

  37. Mike says:

    I’m so confused at what game people were watching.

    Castillo was one of the solid players. He rarely made a mistake and kept the ball in possession. He tracked back well and did his job.

    The hate for him on this site is mindboggling. He’s clearly a very serviceable backup to Johnson. He was the least of our problems tonight.

    Whatever the heck that was in the midfield is a serious, serious problem. Dempsey and Bradley and Donovan need to figure that ish out because that’s just not going to fly against even a decent team.

  38. RB says:

    Well, hello again, Benny.

    So, OK, I went and watched the Canada match. Not sure how any of it supported your views from earlier today…

  39. squirt-lover says:

    Chandler is not walking through that door!

  40. Illmatic74 says:

    Missed opportunity for Castillo he could have looked liked Roberto Carlos in his prime in terms of attacking since he didn’t have to worry about defending.

  41. Spencer says:

    As we all want Chandler to play, right now its time to get over him and move on as if he won’t play for us.

  42. AG says:

    SBI logo and Canadian crest sure look similar.

  43. jjraines says:

    Not picking on you, but:
    “Castillo did not play poorly, given he wasn’t expecting to start.”

    Soccer players have got to be the mentally weakest type of athlete on the planet. What does not expecting to play earlier in the day excuse? He’s a member of the team, yes? But apparently you and others don’t think that’s enough to be expected to have your head in the game.

    “Still, he didn’t create any Bornstein-like disasters.”

    Other than giving up the ball every other time he touched it — including the goal that was stolen from Canada — then yes, he didn’t create any Bornstein-like moments.

    Can someone remind me again why this guy gets so much time? He sure seems to think himself clever and skillful, but in fact he has no business being on the field for us. Nor should he be a reserve. I can think of no valid reason why he’s here other than Klini’s hard-on for Mexican players.

  44. jjraines says:

    Yep, that Scotland game is looking more like an outlier than a new trend of a new USA.

    And I think being tired and the field not being perfect are damn weak excuses.

    And what’s even more pathetic is the 0-0 scoreline is actually favorable for us. We can’t even claim we “just have to do better finishing our chances” or macro moral victories that we played positive, attacking soccer that defines the supposed changes Klinsi’s implementing. The Goodson header and the Donovan-Dempsey play were our best chances, and Canada had 4-5 better than that.

    Canada deserved to win, and we as fans should demand more than this out of the USMNT.

  45. Benny says:

    You will be changing your tune soon enough as all front runner do.

  46. pancholama says:

    Man, oh man!
    I had forgotten that.
    Canadian bacon is just HAM!!!
    You just made my night.
    Thanks man.

  47. QuakerOtis says:

    Not to signal the falling of skies, but, calling it as I see it: the US lacked a professional level of motivation.

    I’m thinking that, whether directed to or not, the players more or less took the night off, or at least went at half-pace. Post-match commentary about fatigue would suggest as much.

    That said, it was an essentially meaningless friendly against a team we won’t face until the hex, if even then. We will be ready to go for qualifiers after a day of rest and few days worth of single practices. Gotta get our legs back for the real deal.

    As for motivation: there will be no problem motivating this team for WC qualifiers. The first match should be a momentum builder. Heck, if a home qualifier against Antigua & Barbuda isn’t, then, frankly, we shouldn’t get too hyped about the WC in the first place.

  48. Illmatic74 says:

    Miami just tied it back up.

  49. buckyball says:

    Agree. I thought Castillo was fine.

    The problem was in mid. A commentator stated that for this game Bradley was tasked to be a defensive central mid. Not sure why he was, but it sure precluded many good linkage passes up the middle. There was a huge, constant gap between our high positioned forwards and lagging, deep positioned central mids.

    Donovan was ho-hum and lacking sharpness. Someone said DeRo was the best player on the pitch. I think I agree. He seemed the only player on either team who really attacked with great focus.

  50. Benny says:

    Throw them at Rafael Márquez.

  51. jjraines says:

    Instead of the next Roberto Carlos he’s more the Carlos Roberto of your local Sunday afternoon soccer game at the park.

    How many more poor showings from him will it take for Klinnsman to no longer use him, you think?

  52. Kojo says:

    Man of the match Jermaine Jones. For those who don’t like Jones you really need to start noticing how many plays he started from the back in this game and his racing up the field to continue the attack. He played solid defense, made a number of defensive runs and showed the bite that the rest of the team was lacking. The yellow card he received was bogus. The Canadian lost the ball on the dribble and Jones stepped in front to steal the ball whereupon they both fell down. Overall it appeared that the lack of quality play from the US was due to fatigue from 3 games in 9 days and training twice daily. However this is what Klinsmann has been stressing. That he wants to see who rises when you don’t have much left and I think Jones showed Klinsmann that he is certainly up to the task given that he has played more minutes in the last three games than any other field player.

  53. CrispyST3 says:

    I’m honestly tired of seeing torres and castillo, bring in Lichaj and Gatt. Gatt has had one full season under his belt IN EUROPE and i think the excuse “he’s still young” for not bringing him in is lame because we brought in Juan Agudelo before he even got his first full start for club. Lichaj started for Aston Villa for the last 2 months i think and was playing very well, and i’m pretty sure he’s alot better than Castillo.

    Also i think i feel better if Goodson is back there than Gooch. I don’t think we can play the 4-3-3 effectively unless we have wingers who can cut inside and dish off the ball to Jozy or whoever is playing the lone striker role.

  54. Brad says:

    What bothers me is that the US attackers, in this game anyway, took early crosses and didn’t try to get behind the defense, thereby making it much harder for the defense to intercept.

    Hopefully F. Johnson will get healthy, Dempsey will get 100% game fit, JJones or Edu will be content staying back on defense, and we’ll get sharper so we can break-down packed in defenses.

  55. Tony in Quakeland says:

    I’m sorry, I thought Castillo was the worst US player by a long measure.

  56. Brad says:

    I think Jones is one of the best passers we have.

  57. jjraines says:

    “Castillo…rarely made a mistake and kept the ball in possession”

    Look again. *smh*

  58. Brad says:

    The Canadians seemed to be focusing their attack on Castillo, which makes sense. He had some good and some bad plays. Overall a very good improvement from his last call-up. I don’t think he’ll challenge Johnson, but depth is a good thing.

  59. QuakerOtis says:

    I agree about both the fatigue factor and Jones’ play. I was frustrated by the other guys’ failure to either notice his runs or pick him out with an accurate pass. I also think that, despite the lack of shots, Gomez displayed good energy in showing for the ball and tracking back late into the game. Doubt he’ll start over a fit Altidore, but he deserves a look.

  60. QuakerOtis says:

    Pretty clearly since the last Copa de Oro

  61. Sarasota says:

    I was a Jose Torres fan, but it’s time to move on. He adds nothing to our attack! Based on performance, Michael Bradley is actually our best attacking midfielder; great vision and possession, killer passes, and a dangerous shot.

    I think Danny Williams is a better D-mid than Mo Edu. Edu contantly turns the ball over, is a poor passer and jogs up and down the field. Williams is good on the ball, maintains possession, is fast and connects with his passes.

    Eric Lihaj need to be on this team!!! Michael Parkhurst is in over his head at this level. Good effort by Edgar Castillo.

    Time for the coach to get it right NOW before we start Qualifying!

  62. RB says:

    Yes that’s what you told me earlier when predicting a 7-0 US victory over Canada tonight.

    The funny thing is, you still don’t have any clue what “my tune” is, or what other folks here are saying, evidently…

  63. PD says:

    Did they do a two-a-day today?

  64. b says:

    Terrible terrible game, I can’t remember the last time a team with so much talent played so badly. They were nervous and listless at the same time. Guys would make decent plays and then screw up a second later. For most of the game they couldn’t string three passes together, and it’s not even that Canada played great defense, we would just pass it straight to them.

    That said, is anyone surprised by how we look given all the games and all the practices in the last week? And Klinsmann doesn’t have the depth for it given that he didn’t call in Lichaj/Kljestan/Ream types who could have taken some of those minutes, plus Dempsey and Altidore not being match fit, plus Johnson picking up an injury (not having Lichaj when Chandler refused

  65. skyman says:

    It actually IS excusable. . a friendly with Canada right before qualifiers. It’s just not what we want to see, a completely uninspired group, outside of the diehard Goodson, who I must say always puts forth hella effort.

  66. hush says:

    Mike: I completely agree. Castillo, Goodson, and Jones were my players of the game for the U.S. I’m not sure I understand some of these fans.

    Also for those whining over Mexico being better, please stop. The Mexican federation hardly ever sets up decent friendlies. I rather play Belgium, France, Italy, Spain, Scotland, Poland, Sweden, etc… and half these games are played in “EUROPE” by the way… Mexico never tries to play anywhere outside of the U.S or Mexico against strong opposition. Their federation know exactly what type of games they have a shot in winning. They don’t want the pressure of the fans and media so they stick to weak opposition. Mexico has NEVER tried to play a friendly match with Brazil in Maracana or in Europe for that matter. I would love for Mexico’s federation try set up some games played in Europe with decent teams. Let them play N.Ireland or Wales in the UK, I guarantee Mexico comes out of there win less. Mexico’s federation know to play weak competition and build confidence for the team and fans. You will never see Mexico play Belgium, France, and Italy away, NEVER. If they did, El Chepo would be fired immediately after these 3 matches, almost guaranteed.. When Mexico goes to Genoa and beats Italia, then will talk. As of right now, no one is above anyone.

  67. Rob says:

    I find it interesting that Dempsey gets such a pass when he has a terrible performance. He was supposed to be supporting the striker and instead he was coming back to midfield to pick up the ball and pushing the midfielders back in doing so. Stay next to the forward and let the midfielders do their job. Dempsey was non-existent and was just as bad as anyone else on the field. He killed our attack as it was often Gomez up top on his own with Dempsey 30 feet behind him after he picked up the ball from one of the center backs and took himself out of the play. Let the people who can actually pass the damn ball start the play and just stay up top where you are supposed to be.

  68. hush says:

    What I mean is, I rather play games in Europe against powerhouse and lose, than to play weak opposition.

  69. b says:

    (continued) refused the call up looks really silly now.

    Canada looked like the better team for most of the game, they should probably have won 2-0. We looked like Scotland at times. Not that Canada looked much better. It was like watching some MLS matchup between mediocre teams, maybe 2011 Earthquakes vs Crew. People are just moving at random and kicking the ball arbitrarily. No rhyme or reason. A wasted 2 hours that none of us can get back.

    MOTM: DeRosario
    Best US: Goodson (and I’m not a fan, that is damning with faint praise) followed by Howard
    Worst US: Castillo (ugh)

  70. RB says:

    It is hard to believe that you mean this commentary seriously, on the very day that Mexico notched a confident 2-0 win over Brazil.

  71. DC United says:

    Castillo & Parkhurst were both poor and should be considered 3rd or 4th string. Lichaj should be considered the #2 behind Johnson @ LB and the #3 behind Dolo & Chandler @ RB. I’d put Danny Williams as better options for outside back than Castillo or Parkhurst.

  72. hogatroge says:

    Only saw the last 15 minutes or so (might watch the replay tomorrow night) but was wondering what the heck Deuce was doing in the defensive third taking a pass from Goodson…

  73. Goalscorer24 says:

    No, not on a game day. But still after a week of doing that you are pretty burnt.

  74. Goalscorer24 says:

    The main issue with Castillo is he dribbles too much. Get past one guy ok, then pass it. Don’t try to go through three guys. But it was definetly a better performance from him then last time with the US.

  75. roger says:

    I would like to see a top 20 players list (excluding US and Mex) from Concacaf.

  76. matt says:

    Haha, well said, and painfully true.

  77. peterjh says:

    In Canada it’s called ham. It’s only called Canadian bacon in the US.

  78. Ricky B. Free says:

    So let me get this straight. Constantly going forward and being able to drible past 1 guy and not making istakes that cost your team a goal is playing poorly?

    So many guys here sure hate Castillo or love Lichaj so much. It seems like they watch soccer with their backs to the tv.

    Get your blinders off and watch the damn games without being byas towards one player because you want another onein that spot. Its like a lot of these so called ¨fans¨ want a guy they dont like to have a bad game and when he doesnt they find stupid stuff to lame on him or make s..t up.

    Castillo defended well and helped our offense.

    Dempsey on the other hand was our attacking midfielder and did nothing to create any offense. I like Dempsey but it was kind of funny that as soon as we get him to play AM we dont create much going forward. Just put him on the left wing or second striker, he creates nothing and hold on to the ball too much.

  79. steve says:

    Three questions for someone more knowledgable than I:

    1) If you have been fumbling about with the midfield for a year and a half, and then you finally find a wonderfully successful combo during the Scotland game, why blow that up?

    2) If you want to create continuity in the defense, why start three different pairings at CB?

    3) If you plan to play with a CF or target forward, why start a poaching compliment striker for two of the games?

  80. Ricky B. Free says:

    Thanks for pointing all the bad thing he did. yes he over dribbles a lot but at least he was trying to make something happen. UNlike our Attacking Midfielder Who could care less. Didnt even try to pressure canada when they had the ball.

  81. peterjh says:

    Oh woe is me, the sky is falling…

    Hasn’t there been a John O’Brien sighting recently?

  82. sandtrout says:

    Agreed. I used to be a big Torres fan, but to my eye he’s offering less and less. He seems to be the weakest link in the attack now, and I’d like to see him yanked from the first 11.

    Overall, a waste of 2 hours, sad to say.

  83. b says:


    Hopefully he sees that they need a break and doesn’t overwork them.

  84. Ricky B. Free says:

    2) Because our Cb scuk adn he is trying to find someone that can at least do a decent job.

    3) Gomez played well. He pressure Canada, he ran all over the field and he scored a goal. Not today he didnt have much service.

    1) You are right he found what worked and blew that up. I sure would like Sunil to fire martin vazquez because he is 1 of the reasons we keep rotating our midfield. YOu know he is supposed to be the guy that is in charge of the tactical issues. He is way over his head.

  85. sandtrout says:

    Some of the most frustrating moments of an awful game were at the end when Parkhurst got the ball and just stood there, having no idea what to do. It was so bad it was funny.

  86. dan says:

    That was pathetic. 4-4-2 just doesn’t work. and Bradley HAS to be attacking more

  87. 2tone says:

    Confidant win. Uhm, no. GO look at the stats. Brasil68 percent possession. Brasil 16 shots Mexico 5. Mexico was playing bunker ball for the entire game.

  88. DLewis says:

    Castillo also had a lot of talented on the ball moments. He wasn’t that bad.

  89. Ricky B. Free says:

    It seems like we have a lot of drama queens posting. They overract to everything.

    If we win everything is going well and the future looks bright.

    If we lose everything is going wrong adn we may not qualify. Havent you guys seen the teams we are going to play?

    We still have a lot of time to improve. Its road to the world cup 2014. We need to get results and improve.

  90. sandtrout says:

    Good news is, perhaps Castillo can be taught to get rid of the ball quicker. You can’t teach the speed and other skills he does have. But you can correct that mistake.

  91. 2tone says:

    Well, all i have to say is we will see what happens this upcoming Friday. If it’s not a comfortable win, and the U.S. struggles against Antigua; I will be less confident about this team.

  92. crocajun1003 says:

    They did look a bit sluggish out there.

  93. DLewis says:

    1. Friendly
    2. Friendly
    3. Friendly

    Trying to get a look at everyone before qualifiers.

  94. nick says:

    Castillo played poorly throughout the game. He was frequently caught out of position, his passing was very loose, he was beaten for speed on the outside and his crossing was wild.

    If Castillo is our Left Back, and representative of the overall ability of the team qualifying for the WC would be a bridge too far.

  95. David J S says:

    Chandler is not on the team. We need to accept that reality as of right now. As in just stop talking about him until further notice.

  96. crocajun1003 says:

    This was probably his least effective game of the 3. I’d say much of it had to do with Johnson being scratched. Torres was working so well on the left side w/ FJ, and Castillo just isn’t FJ.

    Also, it seemed like Torres ended up playing many back passes after not seeing anything forward. I saw this from many players, but Torres in particular.

    It seemed like the forward pairing of Deuce and Gomez was not very effective at giving the midfielders options going forward.

    I agree that Torres did not have a notable game, but I won’t say that his passing was terrible, and I think a lot of it had to do with a formation that just didn’t work.

  97. fortunate only says:


    Mexico played Chile in Barcelona and Poland in Poland just a few months ago and didn’t lose either game.

    You should do some research before going on your typical rants.

  98. crocajun1003 says:

    The Fabian loss was huge. We didn’t look like the same team.

    I don’t think the 4-4-2 formation was conducive to the beautiful ball movement we saw in the Scotland game.

    Looks like JK is struggling to figure how how to best deploy Deuce and Donovan while still playing exciting soccer. I’m confident that he’ll figure it out, but I think tonight we saw the growing pains.

  99. WoodenShoe11 says:

    I do not think the sky is falling, but this is the first time I have ever come out of watching a US match feeling like I completely wasted two hours. It was a lackluster effort, a boring match, and the only halfway bright spot was the play of Goodson. I am a US die-hard through thick and thin, but this one looked like a below average MLS match from start to finish.

  100. crocajun1003 says:

    Just think about the impact Marcelo had on Brazil’s attack. We were fairing well against Hulk, Neymar, and company, but when Marcelo began coming forward all hell broke lose.

    Hopefully Johnson is back for qualifiers.

  101. Georg says:

    Probably have been for years

  102. Georg says:

    From who’s perspective the United States or Canada

  103. rocco says:

    I think we would have won 3-0 (maybe 4)if Hainault hadn’t flaunted the rules with those “black bicycle shorts.” It threw the Americans off their game. Everyone knows the bicycle shorts MUST be the same color as the uniform shorts… damn Canadians have no respect for the beautiful game.

  104. crocajun1003 says:

    I feel your pain Benny, but as a resident of South Louisiana, I don’t exactly have tons of people I can vent my soccer frustrations to.

  105. Georg says:

    Play Beckerman, allow Bradley to play a more offensive game, result: a more offensive performance by the US.

  106. dcm says:

    anticipating some hate for this, but that was a perfect game for adu, one of the few players in the pool that can take a pathetic game like that and make it interesting, not always in a “good for the US” kind of way, sure, but at least it’s fun to watch. yes, he falls short in many other categories, but his x factor is worth it. i hope he gets his club situation sorted out. not a starter, but a great 70 min sub during a dead game.

  107. dcm says:

    best post yet.

  108. Brian says:

    He was miscast in the 4-4-1-1 JK ran out today for the beginning of the game. Instead of continuing to press forward he slows up the attack and plays back and sideways passes because that’s what he does. That’s all he does. That’s what he’s programmed to do. He’s not a left mid.

  109. Brian says:

    That’s because he’s not a right back. That’s the 2nd reason JK is an idiot for not calling up Lichaj. The first reason was also shown to us today, and that is that if Fabian Johnson goes down you’re stuck with Castillo at LB. Lichaj should be the main backup at RB and LB.

  110. Brian says:

    The Epic Meal Time guys (Montrealers) call ham ham and bacon bacon.

  111. Brian says:

    Take Torres out. Put Edu in as a destroyer. Have MB and JJ play as box to box mids. Jozy up top. Donovan and Dempsey slightly off to either side of him

  112. patrick says:

    Sounds like I didn’t miss anything important.

  113. Kevin_Amold says:

    I think I agree that there is way too much reactionary posting. I’m guilty of it, for sure.

    However, it is hard to deny that this was a poor display. The game was pretty tough viewing. You’d expect the US to take care of Canada, and when they don’t, it raises eyebrows. Fans are right to ask questions, but it’s far too early for doomsday sentiment.

  114. Glad to see my assesments were so far off, lol

  115. Scott A says:

    Goodson is solid.

  116. Dw says:

    Couldn’t agree more about your comments. If there is anybody that i am very high on than it is Gatt. I think he is a player and deserves serious consideration because i truly feel that he can make an impact at this level. Dead on with all your points Crispy

  117. Dw says:

    +1 on Danny Williams

  118. Tom says:

    Well said! F Mexico!!!

  119. Tom says:


  120. Tom says:

    No you didn’t. First time watching the team that I feel I wasted my time.

  121. Tom says:

    Yes he is and he deserves to start! Gooch has not been th e same since getting injured. Against good teams it seems like his feet are incased in concrete.

  122. louis z says:

    apparently, Gooch does so well at training that he is always going to be in the starting lineup, even with a limp.

  123. louis z says:

    This game was soooo bad, that I ended deleting the recording of it. LD just wasn’t there. seldom I saw give support to DOLO, not sure if that was designed. LD’s passing was bad, can’t sugar coat it. If JK wasn’t to play from the back…why have Gooch in there, he can’t pass, never has. either Edu or Williams be the DM have JJ and MB in front. Now that we are playing for real, I wonder if we will see the same CB pairing, that is going to be hard to watch specially when going to Guatemala.

  124. germania says:

    Is Fabian pulling a chandler?? If.he doesn’t play a quali this time I think were gonna lose him too

  125. Marco says:

    A very unimpressive outing. We were somewhat lucky not to lose

  126. cps says:

    Yup. Still banging my head on the desk wondering why Lichaj’s watching these games on a slowly-buffering internet stream.

  127. C Dog says:

    So playing a spanish country in another spanish speaking country compares to playing Belgium in Brussels and Slovenia in Ljubljana? And since when was Poland a power in Europe? You sir need to do some research

  128. poo says:

    that’s got to burn. I am surprised he would do that.

  129. poo says:

    i agree with you. imagine if he came in instead of Edu.

  130. sam says:

    There seems to be something of a Yaya Toure situation with Bradley. Man City would seem to be a more attacking side with Toure at DM instead of De Jong and another attacking mid (usually Nasri) added in front of him; yet their attack always seemed to sharpen when an apparently defensive substitution was made (Nasri off) and Toure was pushed higher up the pitch. Similarly, Torres instead of Edu seems to be a positive, attacking change, yet it’s pinned Bradley back in the 6 and stripped the offense of his driving forward runs. The Scotland lineup, with Dempsey in for Torres, might be the best attacking team JK can put out there.

    Note: I am not comparing Toure and Bradley, or Man City and the USA, in terms of quality.

  131. HoboMike says:

    No, he’s not.

  132. bryan says:

    I couldn’t disagree more about Jones. And I agree with you about Castillo’s game. Aside from Goodson, those two were the next best USA players on the night. Jones created much of the attacks that we managed to get. He was constantly charging forward, and doing it well, causing Canada to foul him. His defense was questionable tonight though, but Bradley was clearly the one tasked with sitting in front of the back four.

    As for Castillo, he played well. Especially considering the team didn’t really play well and he thought he was’t even on the bench 15 minutes before kickoff. He has good foot work and can pass well. He’s quick and good at getting in the way. My issue with him is he can be a little spastic and try to do too much. But if he can continue playing like that, he’s certainly a solid LB depth option.

  133. bryan says:

    Dude, I agree. I don’t know why people are getting on him. Canada attacked the left side the entire game and he stopped them almost every single time. He did get lucky on the non-goal, but the guy was solid. He just needs to relax a bit.

  134. bryan says:

    Castillo did NOT look awful!!!

  135. bryan says:

    Parkhurst plays RB for his club. I agree he did not look good, but you are wrong that he is not a RB.

  136. Chris says:

    Well, right now Mexico > USA, so I don’t think we’ll be in first. But things happen, so I’m not giving up hope.

    It did look like the team trained through the game. And am I the only one who doesn’t like Donovan out on the wing? Put the best field player ever for the US in the middle!

  137. bryan says:

    Actually, the majority of Canada’s attack came down our leftside and Castillo basically stopped every single one of them. He got beat a few times, but was pretty solid overall. His problems seemed to stem from being spastic, especially when he got forward.

  138. bryan says:

    Dude, same here. Castillo was the 3rd best player on the pitch tonight for the USA. Behind Goodson and Jones. Canada attacked the left side ALL NIGHT and Castillo only got beat (flat out) 3 times, only one of which resulted in a non-goal. He provided options out wide and combined pretty well with Torres (not as good as Johnson though). He got forward and was pretty dangerous, but sometimes too spastic. Despite what people think, I think Castillo showed he is capable to fill in a LB. Given how poor we were today, he would probably be better in a game we were playing well in.

  139. away goals says:

    You know there are several places people can go to verify all the things you just said, right?

    Mexico’s pre south africa ‘confidence-building’ schedule:

    5/24/2010 v england in england

    5/26/2010 v holland in germany

    5/30/2010 v gambia in germany

    6/3/2010 v italy in belgium

    then this:

    8/11/2010 v espana in mexico city

    Mexico are good. Our hatred of them doesn’t change that.

  140. bryan says:

    Absolutely dude. The only thing Castillo was poor in yesterday was doing too much, usually when getting forward. He played pretty well defensively.

  141. bryan says:

    No, this just simply isn’t true. He was hardly EVER caught out of position. Canada attacked his side ALL night and he was ALWAYS there. Not ONCE did Boca have to play LB. His passing going forward wasn’t the best, I will agree with that. But no one seemed to be able to pass last night. As for crossing, I think he crossed it 1-2 times. If anything, he needed to cross more. But he would keep dribbling and ended up losing it. That was my issue with him last night. He needs to be quicker in his decision making.

  142. bryan says:

    Jones was my #2 on the night. Goodson bailed us out a few times. Jones got forward well, passed well and caused problems for Canada all night. I thought his work on defense could have been better though.

  143. bryan says:

    Disagree about Torres but agree with everything else.

  144. bryan says:

    dude, the fact you have Castillo as the worst completely invalidates anything you said. this guy was being attacked all night and was still able to keep a clean sheet. he played well.

  145. bryan says:

    I agree about Castillo, Goodson and Jones being the 3 best US players tonight.

  146. JPGR says:

    This was one of the most frustrating games to watch…as a U.S. Supporters Club member, I have to say that we were lucky to come away with a tie…we looked awful and after watching how Mexico played against brazil, I don’t even want to compare the 2 concacaf teams…it’s too painful….hopefully this is not what we have to look forward to as USMNT fans and coach Klinsmann has something good up his sleeve

  147. bryan says:

    Dude, I agree. Castillo was solid last night. I honestly can’t believe some of the comments about Castillo.

  148. JPGR says:

    This was one of the most frustrating games to watch…as a U.S. Supporters Club member, I have to say that we were lucky to come away with a tie…we looked awful and after watching how Mexico played against brazil, I don’t even want to compare the 2 concacaf teams…it’s too painful….hopefully this is not what we have to look forward to as USMNT fans and coach Klinsmann has something good up his sleeve

  149. JPGR says:

    This was one of the most frustrating games to watch…as a U.S. Supporters Club member, I have to say that we were lucky to come away with a tie…we looked awful and after watching how Mexico played against brazil, I don’t even want to compare the 2 concacaf teams…it’s too painful….hopefully this is not what we have to look forward to as USMNT fans and coach Klinsmann has something good up his sleeve

  150. bryan says:

    some SBI readers blow my mind. HE CAN’T CHANGE BECAUSE HE ALREADY FILED HIS ONE-TIME SWITCH. This has been covered MANY times by SBI.

  151. bryan says:

    This was a bad game for sure, but we learned a few things. We need to be in a 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1. It’s just that simple.

    For me, Goodson was MOTM followed by Jones and then Castillo. The best player on the field was DeRo though. I thought LD looked absolutely terrible, Dempsey was absolutely ineffective, Bradley was just ok but stuck on defense, Torres was ok, Gomez was decent but was not nearly as good as the previous two games, and Boca/Dolo looked gassed.

    This team was very flat and they looked tired. I hope JK gives them some rest because they clearly need a day off. I thought Jozy looked good the few times he had the ball. Can’t wait to get him back out there.

    Anyone know the recovery time for Johnson?

    For the qualifiers, I would like to see:

    Dolo, Goodson, Boca, Johnson
    Bradley, Edu, Jones
    LD, Jozy, Dempsey

    Subs: Torres, Guzan, Boyd, Corona, Gooch, Castillo, Gomez

    I would also be ok having Jones play in Edu’s spot with Torres at LCM. Torres and Johnson play well together. At least for the A&B game I’d like to see Jozy, but if he plays poorly, I’m ok with Gomez going back in. And if Gomez comes in, I put him on the LW with Dempsey in the middle.

    On another note, Goodson and Gooch didn’t lose a single header when they were both in. haha Those two are nuts.

  152. RB says:

    I did better than that: I watched the game. Mexico was not in the least playing bunker ball for the entire game. They simply were not awed by the idea of playing Brazil and scrambling around all day, as a result.

    But anyway, the point remains that Mexico having not only faced but beaten Brazil the very same day is one of the reasons hush’s charges here are unfounded.

  153. John says:

    The inside story is that Junior wants to play for Canada but his dad wants him to play for Jamaica. His dad is also his agent and has a ton of influence over him.

  154. Vic says:

    Too many central players (Bradley, Jones and Torres) and our attack is too predictable. Klinnsmann should sit Torres and start Castillo at Left Mid. In the future Klinnsmann should call up more wingers (Bedoya and Gatt).

  155. Dennis says:

    I thought Castillo played well enough. He was fouled and pretty hard by DeRo on that non-goal. He did get decent positioning for aerial balls so that he did not lose too much to bigger players. He could keep possession and dribble if need be.

    But, he tended to keep the ball too long, did not provide any good service to others and when dribbling out of the back took too many chances that when they failed left the US open for counters. Those are all mental things that can be fixed, but that does not always happen as some players just never seem to get it. Ask Adu why he does not start for anyone, I’m sure he has no idea. Lets hope Castillo can develop a better soccer brain.

  156. JPGR says:

    I would sit Altidore and play Gomez instead

  157. Dennis says:

    I agree Castillo defended well and he could dribble past one defender, but he almost never made any really useful passes, so saying he helped our offense is an overstatement. His dribbling runs were often made because he did not see a way to pass out. It is always hard to tell if that is because no one showed for the ball or if they showed but he could not see (or chose to ignore) them. I suspect that at least some of the time players were open and Castillo did not make the pass and instead dribbled. Dribbling in the back, in addition to being risky also slows the attack and bogs it down too far from goal.

    Still, Castillo was not the reason the US performed so poorly.

  158. sam says:

    It was strange that Gomez seemed much more capable of holding up play and menacing the centerbacks against Brazil then against Canada. I’m now back to worrying if we really can deploy Gomez as a center forward. The good news is I think Altidore is just a bit rusty.

  159. Dennis says:

    Neither Altidore nor Wondo had a chance to influence the game. Altidore’s best moments came off of defensive clearances and Wondo was pretty much wasted chasing fullbacks all by himself since by the time he came in Dempsey was playing in the defensive third and Altidore was kind of lost.

  160. THomas says:

    I’d argue that the US game vs. Brazil took a lot out of both teams. As I was watching us play Brazil and after the physical nature of the game, I said to somebody that the biggest winner in this game was going to be Mexico who would get a tired and beat up Brazil side. Canada benefited as well.

    No excuses for the results, but look at the big picture, not the short term results.

  161. THomas says:

    Castillo was pretty good too.

  162. THomas says:

    What ended up happening? I fell asleep after the 8th minute.

  163. THomas says:

    It would be close…Brazil would have been 3-0 w/ 9 points, we would have 4 with a +1 goal differential and 6 goals scored. Then the winner of Canada/Scotland would be also have 4 points, if they drew they’d each only have 2. Let’s say Canada wins, it’s likely a low scoring game and both those teams likely lose to Brazil by at least two goals…so in the end we advance on goal difference.

    Don’t argue…I simulated it on FIFA…J/K that would make me a total loser, not jsut partially a loser.

  164. Benny says:


  165. The Imperative Voice says:

    Have you ever been over-trained? It’s not the players’ fault if the coach runs their legs off.

    But if they can get their legs back I can’t imagine Antigua or Guate could actually take advantage, and half the point to all these games, IMO, was to play us hard so the real thing is almost easy. After Brazil or even Canada I imagine Antigua will not be the same, much as I’d have preferred different results, more interesting tactics, and more energy.

  166. The Imperative Voice says:

    Canada has always played us tight because it’s similar physicalities, similar tactics, etc. They’re fresh and it’s our third game in a week.

    I was far more concerned by Panama #1 last year at home than tying a solid Canada side at their house.

  167. The Imperative Voice says:

    My concern was the lack of wing play/ quality. As with some of the JK games it simply felt like we didn’t have enough actual wingers around. Landon was about it.

    I say that because it felt like Mr. Tiki Taka Torres was trying to play wing and is not particularly apt at doing so.

  168. James says:

    I though Castillo did well too. He did make some mistakes, but they can all be fixed. He has talent and drive you can’t teach and if he can hone that talent he would be a great lb. I wouldn’t mind him starting eventually and moving Johnson up in the formation. Johnson has what American soccer doesn’t have – the ability to beat a person in an one on one situation. If you watched the game last night you can see they brought the ball up and just tried to cross. Rarely, did anyone try to beat their man. Sadly, the u.s. will not improve if they don’t add this aspect to their game. Also, the players need to be able to play almost every position because what jk wants is a flowing game. We cant have that if people, like edu, can’t pass or cross the ball and only defend. Also, I have noticed if Donovan is not faster than the person he can’t beat them one on one. Where is his creativity? Here is hope to more players playing in Europe at a young age and not playing in college. It really stifles and soccer growth.

  169. The Imperative Voice says:

    Whatever it was the linesman saw, the flag was up so early in the process that acting like a goal got taken away is a tad strained. We was robbed works better when you elbow the guy on the header and it goes in but gets called back. This Castillo is getting knocked around in the corner, is stripped but the flag goes up, a pass has to be made to Ledgerwood for him to even finish. It’s not quite kicking the ball in the net after being called offsides but the quality of the finish is almost besides the point when the call’s already made.

    FWIW I thought the initial guy hammering on Castillo merited a call but the guy who stole the ball had position.

  170. The Imperative Voice says:

    I did see some hope in that it wasn’t anyone’s ideal XI from the camp, but there’re enough serious players where I can’t blow it off.

  171. The Imperative Voice says:

    All due respect but if the wings are open I’d prefer specialist midfielders whacking balls in versus “backs getting forward” any day. I’m slightly concerned that Dempsey and Donovan seem to be both our best wings and our best forwards and you can’t use them twice. Torres is not a wing, and Shea and some others aren’t even in camp. To the extent we need wing service I’m a little worried.

    Of course some would say that we can do it playing Klinsi’s knockaround style but last night was programmatic results for many nights we’ve tried to become a Klinsi passing team, lots of perimeter passing, not enough incisive balls, low scores. Italy bought him a big breather but I’m not sold his style is effective.

  172. The Imperative Voice says:

    He’s not been playing. The question is his fitness and form off injury. The question of a “pass” is more a propos when one is fit but looks lousy, this was more like an attempt to get him involved after giving him time off. To me it’s a win he didn’t limp off.

  173. The Imperative Voice says:

    link to

    The good news is Klinsi gets it, but we’ll see if the legs come back.

  174. Four Cents says:

    Hope Benny and Adu get in the mix after the first round of WCQ (that’s if we even get through). We could use their creativity..

  175. Four Cents says:

    Castillo did well IMO- He was hassled on the left side for most of the game. He made a couple poor decisions, but the Pros outweighed the Cons.. If Fabian isn’t playing that position, then I think Castillo will do well… Let Go You Yanks!! Get Your Legs Back!!!

  176. JPGR says:

    Great point and I hope you’re right…only time will tell.

  177. I like Klinsmann a lot, but Bradley is a better coach. He is better at evaluating talent, putting them in the right places, and forming a strategy that makes the best use of the talent against the talent of the other team.

  178. haydenjo says:

    I agree that many times there were no options going forward; but in the second half when we had options, Torres couldn’t make the simple pass.

    Also he always takes a extra touch; when many times a one-touch is what is needed. Castillo also seems to suffer from this problem.

  179. The Imperative Voice says:

    It’s not a good sign when people line up to make “Edgar Castillo: In Defense of Mediocrity”-type posts. His offense was muddled and on defense they were attempting to exploit him for speed. They were effective enough where I became impressed with the attacker’s speed and dangerousness, a sign Castillo was not as good as some suggest.

    I’ve personally never seen Castillo play particularly well for the USA, which should be relevant in the “all star” context of the USMNT, just as it is for the hustling but pointless Wondo (and his predecessor in the role Twellman). “What have you done for me lately?” But as goes with these things on the net, he’s either wholly underrated or a complete travesty.

    Few have mentioned Howard, who did in fact break up a few plays, make his saves, and make few gaffes. Ledgerwood’s shot, while impressive, was well after the whistle. If we’re going to applaud quality direct it the right way.

    Particularly against more modest sides I’m a tad bothered by the 2-DM approach. People are advocating for Edu but this becomes a how many DMs do we need situation we were already deploying B.1 Jones and Serie A Bradley how much more of that is necessary. What I felt we needed was wing play and incisive playmaking. Too much (attractive, mind you, but not particularly effective) just playing the ball around, not enough getting the ball to spots and setting up forwards. Running JK theme.

  180. JPGR says:

    I feel more confident with Gomez playing…

    To me, he seems to hustle more than Altidore and he seems to have a better nose for the goal, not to mention superior ball control…he also seems to read the game better…and he’s quicker to all of the 50/50 balls. You could say that Altidore is rusty, but Gomez seemed to hustle more and this was after playing in 3 games within 8 days

  181. bryan says:

    Castillo only got beat by speed one time. Pure speed.

    As for Howard, he’s always a beast. Nothing new there. haha

    As for the two defensive mids, I agree. But I disagree with you that people should stop discussing Edu. If we go to a 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1, Edu can be the destroyer and allow Jones/Bradley to get forward. This is what they did in the Scotland game. Or you put Jones in the destroyer role and have Bradley and Torres as the outside center mids. That’ll free up the top 3 for LD, Dempsey and Jozy/Gomez.

  182. cactuspoppedmyfootball says:

    This was a terrible game to watch. Canada far outplayed the US tonight and with the 1-0 win. (Yes that was a goal.) I am worried about the US chances going forward.

    After hearing that mexico beat brazil 2-0 I thought our guys would have something to prove against canada, but apparently all they had to prove was how to turn the ball over consistantly in the midfeild. This lineup was dreadful!

    We can’t play two centerbacks that can’t hold the ball or create any movement out of the back. If either of them get a pass they immediatly pass it back to howard or to the outside. It makes out ball movement EXTREMELY predictable. Bocanegra passes to howard who passes to cherundolo who passes to (midfielder) who turns it over.

    Castillo is a spaz and shouldnt play until he can be more disciplined with the ball or possibly try him as a winger, but not a back.

    I would love to Try EDU on the backline

    Bradley was horrible tonight, turned it over almost everytime he touched the ball.

    Donovan and Torres can’t play together they are both heartless.

    I would like to see another goalie get a game or two to see how they manage the backline with positioning and set peices.

    With the players we have in camp I would love to see this for an experiment.

    Guzan or Rimando
    Bradley – Jones
    Gomez – Boyd
    I would Bring Altidore,Donovon,and Onyewu off the bench.

  183. Matt says:

    True, but all teams had mid week friendlies.

    Mexico was just a better team than Brazil’s U-23 Olympic team. Mexico almost defeated the senior Brazilians last fall until they blew a penalty and the lead late in the game to fall 2-1.
    To be frank, I was upset when the US lost the way they did against an Olympic team but it was just one of those games and we have to respect a U-23 Brazil team. A u23 Brazil team is still better than most senior teams in the world and it was U23 Brazil teams that were runner ups in the 1996 and 2003 Gold Cup.

    Canada seemed to play a 8-1-1 most of the game and any team would have had a hard time scoring against them.They almost did surprise the US a couple of times. The US is still a top team in CONCACAF. Most likely Canada will not make the World Cup like that but that doesn’t mean the US is all of a sudden a bad team and in danger of not qualifying.

  184. crocajun1003 says:

    I think you guys have it right. I like Torres, but he isn’t a winger. He doesn’t have the speed.

    He’s excellent at maintaining possession and slowing down the game, but that wasn’t exactly what we needed out of that position last night. It worked in the first 2 games b/c in the previous formation the LB was responsible for providing width to the attack, unfortunately in the 4-4-2 the winger has to push the game more.

    I’d like to see him as the Dmid with JJ and MB in front of him in the 4-3-3, but I’d understand if he ends up on the bench w/ Edu playing that roll.

  185. Josh says:

    Another reason it’s better to play in Europe than in North America. The Mexican Primera Division is the continent’s best league, but they don’t place the same emphasis on defense, and so players have time for those extra touches on the ball.

  186. Matt says:

    “Catillo Castillo CASTILLO CASTILLO….”
    that seems to be the trend in the comments. Is he the best LB option? No. But he did good. Mistakes? Absolutely. But he did his job stoping Canada. Maybe he did try to do too much at times on the offensive side but I was very happy to see him attack. That is how he plays for Tijuana and considering Canada had most everybody back defending, why not send Castillo up?

    I think the biggest problem Castillo has is when people look at him, all they see is “MEXICAN” since he did once wear the green jersey. Therefore criticism is looked at very closely.

  187. Lorenzo says:

    Wait a minute, let’s not lower our rating of Brazil b/c it was Olympic side.
    Hulk, Neymar, Pato, Thiago Silva, Marcelo…

    That’s Porto’s start striker going to UEFA Champions Chelsea, the prize jewel of Brazil/striker every club in the world wants, two seasoned players from AC Milan, and a defender from Real Madrid.

  188. Josh says:

    Perhaps, but it’s also possible that the US is neither as good as the Scotland match suggests nor as bad as the Canada match suggests. Sometimes you just have a bad game, possibly for a variety of reasons (fatigue, players out of position, etc).

    The players were certainly fatigued. Several were playing out of position (Torres is wasted on the wing; Bradley needs to play higher up the pitch), and without Fabian Johnson, the LB position reverts back to the problem area it’s always been. I like Castillo’s attacking instincts, but he’s too irresponsible and positionally unsound to play LB for the US.

    Not that this is an excuse; the team played poorly. Moreover, they can expect to see a bunkering mentality from most CONCACAF opposition, so if they can’t break down *Canada*, they’re going to have some big problems against better opposition.

    All that said, there’s no point in getting all worked up over a friendly match, especially one where the coach is still tinkering with the lineup. I’d rather the US get their lousy games out of the way BEFORE they starting counting! If the US struggles to break down Antigua and Barbuda, then I’ll be worried. However, Klisnmann usually corrects his tactical mistakes, so I fully expect to see Bradley playing higher up the pitch, for starters.

  189. Aquaman says:

    I don’t know if the majority of Canada’s attacks came down Castillo’s side because DeRo was on the other side of the field most of the time. Aside from that, he plays how I would want my left mid to play. He stopped passes, made dribbling runs, and crosses but well in advance of where I would want a LB to play. The fact that he did actually get back to even make plays on the defensive side was because attackers were slowed by mids covering for him so he could speed back. Not to forget that he did try and dribble through people in the defensive third too much, which led to what should have been a Canada goal. Not saying he’s a terrible player, but saying I’d rather have him as a LM than a LB because he naturally wants to play higher and remain higher than he should as a LB option.

  190. M-O-O-N spell Jim says:

    For Canada?

    Why is Castillo afraid to go down into the corner in order to pull the defense away from the middle? no left foot? everyone of his cuts inside was an attacking opportunity lost.

    The success of the US attack seems to be L and R back heavy. Without the attacks coming in from the sides from either of those 2 things stagnated.

  191. Matt says:

    People do know that Mexico has the five game contract with SUM/MLS to play in the US? The fact that Mexico plays here so often may blind people to the fact that mexico has played away games in Europe and against good teams.
    Let’s face it, Mexico is looking like a very solid team right now. How can you say they will lose in the UK? Maybe against England but not anyone else at least how Mexico is playing now. I agree, let’s stop whining over Mexico but let’s not try to twist reality either. Mexico is looking to be a very strong team for a long time with their current squad and future squads.

    Now one thing we need to keep in mind is the World Cup will be played in Brazil. It will not be in Europe. The Latin American atmosphere is a very different beast. CONMEBOL is going to have Brazil plus 4+1 teams compete (most likely 6 total). Playing away games there will be key. We might get a preview of games like that playing in CONCACAF but only the Azteca and other large stadiums might give the US a preview. Can’t wait for the August friendly. We need to have more friendlies away against power houses like Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay

  192. bryan says:

    That’s the thing, DeRo was spraying balls out to their right, our left, most of the game. When he, himself, took it in, he usually attacked the right or the middle. But it was previous obvious Canada was attacking the left side with the “Ocean” guy and then Jackson.

    As for him as a LM over LB, I agree with you on that. He seemed a little too eager to get forward and dribble forgetting that there was no one behind him. It was clear he has been playing LM for his club. That said, he still got back on defense and pretty much stuffed them every time. And yeah, his extra dribbling in the back on that one play was bad. He could have knocked it off of a Canadian player for a throw in pretty easily. But he tried to do too much and was lucky to get a foul.

    In the end, I think he should be in our squad. We need depth out wide.

  193. JPGR says:

    I agree that canada looked better and we looked like we randomly kicked the ball around arbitrarily with no rhyme or reason and also that it was a wasted 2 hours but I don’t agree that Castillo was the worst player.

  194. Frank says:

    Agree. He should have been experimented in the defensive midfield trio. I just don’t understand why JK is playing him out of position. He does the same thing with Danny Williams. Its clear neither are wingers.

  195. Frank says:

    Not saying Jozy hustles more; but he was back in Canada’s final third defending when he came in and at one point he was 5 yards away from the 18 yard box.