MLS hoping to reach deal for NYC stadium within next 30 days


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If MLS has its way, a deal for the much-discussed soccer-specific stadium in New York City will be finalized within the next month.

According to New York Daily News, MLS is hoping to iron out the finals details of a deal that would allow the league to move forward with their plans for a stadium in Flushing Meadows-Corona Park in Queens within the next 30 days. If that turns out to be the case, MLS commissioner Don Garber said construction of the stadium could begin in 2014, with 2016 or 2017 being the target timeframe to open it to the public.

Plans are to build a 25,000-seat stadium on 10 to 13 acres at the Fountains of Industry site, which is reportedly up from the original eight acres there were estimated. Officials, however, are hoping to get approval for a 35,000-seat stadium so as to give MLS the option for stadium expansion in the future.

The news of a deal for a New York City soccer-specific stadium making progress comes on the same day that a Washington D.C. politician said the district was in the final stages of negotiations with D.C. United over a soccer-specific stadium of their own.

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70 Responses to MLS hoping to reach deal for NYC stadium within next 30 days

  1. Badwolfdc says:

    ON a DC stadium – I’ll believe it when its signed off on. Council Member Evans said initially “in the final stages”, then backtracked a few hours later to; we hope to have an agreement in place by the end of the year.

  2. Ridiculous Great says:

    Cosmos are almost tee’d up!

  3. leftcoastmetro says:

    Ives, do you see the second NY team (be it Cosmos or whatnot) being a traveling team or a temporary 2nd tenant at RBA until their stadium is built? I can’t imagine they want to wait until 2017…

  4. Dimidri says:

    Cue regurgitated ‘Cosmos good/bad’ arguments….

  5. Midnight Jump says:

    Um….Lets go New England….Its time for Boston to have a team and a nice stadium please

  6. SS says:

    Try achieving attendance numbers in the current NY team stadium which rival other top grossing teams first. This includes having more than one sell out.

  7. StatesideSupporter says:

    Flushing Meadows/Corona Park? I’ve been out of the state for some time now, but back when that was an LIRR ride to Jamaica and bus transfer. The roads suck around those parts on a good day. It’ll still be a tough slog for LI fans…wish something could have been done closer to the main mass transit lines.

  8. Anti- RAfa says:

    LIRR and 7 train both stop at the stadium site, about a 5-7 minute walk from the platform.

    PArking in Citi field lot.

    Not bad at all on the public transport and LI commute front.

  9. JRP says:

    Why would they want to build a stadium when they could play in an NFL stadium which was “designed” for use as a soccer stadium, monster cross stadium and concert venue?
    Do we really need soccer stadiums to build they league?

  10. Soccer Rules says:

    Yes, the MLS clubs need to control the concessions to be profitable.

  11. Rigazzi's on the Hill says:

    Live in Manhattan: it’s a coin flip as to whether I would rather go to Flushing or Harrison.

    Slight nod to Harrison acutally as I live in lower Manhattan and the new Calatrava transit hub will be much more desirable than the bowels of Grand Central.

    This as much a play to Long Island and southern CT as anything else. Hope they’re game.

  12. Edwin in LA says:

    Well aren’t the Cosmos going to start play in NASL next year??? You figure they play there at least 2 years…maybe 3 and then play in their new stadium even if for only part of 2016 but either share RBA for the 1st Half+ of the season or start on the road like say Houston, KC, Portland and even to an extent Philly did????

  13. Edwin in LA says:

    The problem now is still that even tho the sales numbers have gone down…people sometimes just don’t show up to games and for sure show up late so you don’t see how many people are IN THE SEATS until like halftime lol

    I think a team closer to Manhattan with easy access of the trains and mass transit will out draw 22K Red Bulls tho…maybe sell out a lot with the proper big name DPs or what not…I can SOOOO See Ronaldo or Ribery in NY one day lol

  14. Edwin in LA says:

    I was going to say isn’t it right next to City Field AND the US Tennis Center with Arthur Ashe stadium where they play the US Open?

  15. Edwin in LA says:

    Are you honestly that unaware of how OWNING your OWN stadium gives the team an ability to not only CONTROL but KEEP revenue from all sorts of money making revenue streams…anything from Naming rights and advertising boards/sponsorship revenues…..

    They need a more intimate less Cavernous Stadium, look at what New England go thru in a more than 3/4ths empty Gillette Stadium??

    A 25K with easy expansion to 35K would be PERFECT for NY team!

  16. Da Trufth says:

    Why doesnt MLS wait until they get more powerful owners involved ?????

    25,000 seat stadium, What a joke !!! Let a company like Google or Apple get involved, Knock out some BS real estate in a prime location and put in a 40,000 to 50,000 seat stadium

  17. Knuckles says:

    My issue with this is that the team won’t actually own the stadium. MLS will.

  18. Hopper says:

    New York and LA should have bigger stadiums. If Seattle can average 40k a game, they should be able to do at least that.

    Then again, the game seems to be more popular in the NW.

  19. Edwin in LA says:

    I think this is just MLS doing the work of getting it done….for the sake of helping SOMEONE move there….they’ll still make money and most likely will work out an arrangement to buy their way into the stadium….

  20. poo says:

    all true, but sucks from a longer commuting car trip, but we have the NJRB.

  21. Why would Google or Apple have any interest in MLS? They are businesses interested in making profits. MLS just doesn’t make a lot of money. In fact most teams are still in the red. Maybe one day that will change, and then you can start expecting big companies to want a piece of the pie.

    And a 25,000 seat stadium is much preferable to a 50,000 seat stadium. A big part of moving away from playing in NFL stadiums was that the stadiums were less than half full and the atmosphere was terrible. Smaller, more intimate stadiums (e.g. Livestrong Park, BBVA Stadium, Home Depot Center) are the type of stadiums MLS needs right now. There’s no reason to spend massive amounts of money on a huge stadium, where they’ll have to close large sections just to make the place look filled.

  22. Edwin in LA says:

    If you’re not in Portland or Seattle or even pushing it LA with the right DP like Beckham was…nobody is going to draw close to 40K week in and week out. Is not that it’s a joke, that’s just where our league is at the moment. No shame in that we are slowly climbing the latter of most attended leagues around the world and our stadiums are anywhere from 60 to 90% filled depending on whether you’re in NY or Seattle where for different reasons it’s only about 60% filled or places like KC, Houston, Philly, Portland etc etc where it’s like 90%..

    Places in Europe aside from the EPL and maybe most of the teams in Bundesliga have teams with VERY empty stadiums…look at Spain and Italy which I’ve followed for years…they have horrible attendance in some places with relation to how full the stadium is

  23. Edwin in LA says:

    Your 2nd point is the more valid and true….Seattle and Portland are anomalies of their own….

    LA could get close to that or maybe they could get 40K but only with a stadium maybe a little closer to Central LA and for sure more accessible off a train or light rail…as it is takes me AT LEAST an hour and 20 minutes to get to the HDC from Hollywood which is like 5 minutes from Downtown or 6 miles or what not….and I have to take 1 train, 2 buses and 1 bus that is an express which cost about dollar more because it jumps on the freeway….I could skip the 1st bus and walk but you get the idea…

    If they got a more central stadium and DPs like Beckham that would create a big buzz I can see it otherwise…nope…Prices are kind of high ever since Becks came lol

  24. leftcoastmetro says:

    Well, MLS OS giftwrapping this stadium for a 2nd NY MLS team, be it the Cosmos it someone else. And whoever pays $100 million plus to buyan MLS franchise may not want to linger in the NASL for up to 4 seasons while the thing is built.

  25. Old School says:

    I think it’s awesome when 3/4’s of the stadium is empty.

    For perception alone, that’s AWESOME for the league and club.

    Your statement/question wasn’t a serious one though. So I won’t treat it as such.

    There’s no one you could be that out of touch and uninformed of the importance.

  26. anikan says:

    If the NY team is the Cosmos you can plan on the Red Bulls being dead in a couple years.

  27. The Imperative Voice says:

    Really? Red Bull has a crapload of money and a stadium with their name on it to pay off.

    They are closer to the old Cosmos premise (bring in expensive foreigners using greater resources) than the pretenders with the purchased logo are.

  28. The Imperative Voice says:

    It helps when Portland has only the Blazers, and Seattle has the decidedly mediocre Mariners and Seahawks. Ripe for the hipster picking.

    LA has had 20K+ in both their stadiums. Even if you toss out Meadowlands, they still don’t fill Red Bull Arena. I’m not sold NY is any different than cities like Dallas that only get motivated for big money teams on junkets. Send out Chelsea for a pretend game they’ll show 40K+. Send out NY2 on a salary cap and it’ll be 15K once the novelty wears off.

  29. The Imperative Voice says:

    So, you’d spend $300 million and risk league financial health on a stadium gamble, to address a perception issue? Aren’t we already doing this on a more modest level with modest results in Harrison?

  30. The Imperative Voice says:

    Own? Or own paying a mortgage? Or operate while paying a lease? Cause all the SSS fanboys love to chatter away like it’s a license to print money even if you’re still just an operating tenant. It’s just a different percentage cut.

    Cause people always talk crap about the Revs but as I understand it they play for free. League paragon Seattle plays in a football park. etc.

  31. Troy says:

    Red Bulls are doing just fine. They have a growing (slowly) core group of supporters and in the late summer and fall consistently pack RBA on Saturday games.

  32. K-Town says:

    Lets face it. If I told to go to some job ink town in Europe vs. London, Paris, Milan, etc., which place would you want to go to? Having two teams in LA (I know Chivas are a hot mess) and two in NY gives he league more “choice destinations for worldwide stars to come to. It shouldn’t matter, and It wouldn’t to me, but try telling me that Beckham or Henry would have gone to Columbus. Some players like GBS, and now Higuin like the small town ease, others want the big lights.

  33. K-Town says:

    I hate you auto correct. “If I told you to go to a hobunk town in Europe”

  34. Eugene says:

    I think there is a ready fan base in the NYC market that either doesn’t get enough love from RBNY or is so pissed off at the management of that club, especially in light of the ridiculous shake up just set in motion, that will happily walk over to the new club as soon as they put the Cosmos logo over the door.

    Considering I live in the northern suburbs of NYC and have never seen an RBNY advertisement or event up here, I think perhaps this Queens-based NY club will become my club as soon as they are ready to go.

  35. kevdflb says:

    Wasn’t there just an article about preliminary talks for a location in Revere at the Wonderland T stop?

  36. kevdflb says:

    Pretty much. Yes. Not Right next to, but close.

  37. kevdflb says:

    Having a cross town rival will only help them.
    Not many Red Bulls fans are coming from Queens, Brooklyn or Long Island.

  38. RLW2020 says:

    like it or not, this stadium and the one in DC are going to be huge for mls and soccer in the USA. good work by MLS and others!

    the only question is will there be 19 teams until 2016-17 or will the Cosmos be the 21st or 22nd team to enter the league?

  39. fischy says:

    I’d say it’s more a Queens play than an LI or CT play. Yeah, the team will market to LI and CT lawyers and bankers for the luxury boxes, but the core audience will be immigrants living in Queens.

  40. fischy says:

    You hit the nail on the head. There’s a peculiar hipster vibe in Seattle and Portland that has latched onto soccer and especially the MLS. Ig the sport was as popular in other cities, it might not actually be as cool and popular in those cities. They get off on being different

  41. Brain Guy says:

    Way to kill one of your flagship franchises, Garber. Take away half (or more) of the fan base, practically hand them a new stadium (instead of making them build their own, like RBNY), and create a cooler-sounding place for DPs to go. You’re treating RBNY and its fans like a friend you hang out with only until a cooler person pays attention to you. We’ve got clueless ownership in Austria and a clueless commissioner here. And people wonder why RBNY fans get cranky.

  42. JRP says:

    Irony people. This was a slam on the Flounders.

  43. a says:

    For the cosmos?

  44. Edwin in LA says:

    Well they can’t be in the 2013 season….and I think this will probably be done so they play somewhere in 2016…that means they wait about 3 seasons….wouldn’t hurt to play in NASL for 2 or 3 years…I was just saying Cosmos are coming back to NASL next year….I can see them playing there until 2015…that’s 3 years maybe 2 and play in RBA for 2 years?????

  45. Edwin in LA says:

    I don’t think anyone has spent 300 million….the NY stadium costs that mainly because of the land value…

    NYRB have money from their owners so they are fine and they paid for the stadium so they can do as they please….

    Do you agree with JRP that building stadiums is not important?

    As for your previous comment….yes Revs play for free….they also don’t make much money and suck now….the stadium is WAY too far to get a decent crowd especially when the team has not been very good for a while

    Revs need to move to a more intimate stadium, Seattle does play in a football stadium, but guess what they covered the top part and the Bird’s nest when they they open a part of the 2nd level…and get 40K+ nearly every game….

    And it was designed for both NFL and Soccer btw…. Revs may own the stadium but they could be a better team in a different stadium….teams who are better example of the revenue shortage are DC United, Houston before this year….SKC, SJ etc etc maybe Chivas USA

  46. Edwin in LA says:

    Those cities have DECADES of support for their teams in the old NASL and in other versions of their teams that have played in different leagues or attempts at a league….

    Dallas has a huge problem that Frisco is a LONG drive away from all the folks in Dallas I think New York is a weird animal because even when averaging like 22K and getting some sellouts people weren’t going to games so either a lot of Brokers bought season tickets or for some reason season ticket holders wouldn’t show up to games…..

  47. Edwin in LA says:

    You really don’t know how many of those little Silver/Blue cans they sell do you????

    If anything it’s almost as if RBNY is one big ad campaign lol

    They are fine…they spend close to 15 million on DPs and as much as they can on the rest of the cap…..

  48. Lyle says:

    This doesn’t take away the coolness factor from Red Bull. There will always be DP caliber players wanting to come to the NY area. If Chivas wasn’t such a train wreck, DP’s would want to go there also. San Diego would be a perfect destination for DP’s.

  49. Hilo says:

    Last team left….Get it together, Kraft

  50. Pete says:

    What people don’t understand is if you look at the NY market you will realize that NYRB are the 9th team in try state . Only one newspaper NYPost has a designated writer for the team . And RB will not loose half of the supporters because of the creation of sequels .RB fans base is actually growing , and rival games might actually increase this numbers. NHL lockout might and is bringing a lot of hockey fans to the stands .what I have an issue with Garber in particular is the fact that original MLS team are desperate for SSS and he will finance NY2 c’mon. I been Metro / RB fan for 14 years and as much I hate DC they deserve a stadium so are the Revs .

  51. Joamiq says:

    Good luck getting them to come out to MLS games. It’s not as if the immigrants from soccer loving North Jersey are turning out to RBA in droves.

  52. Pop says:

    Canada should get another team. Only if Edmonton wasn’t so bad….

  53. Julio says:

    The Krafts should be able to work out the financing for the Revs

  54. T-moble says:

    The New Cosmos owners also have a lot of money, they are owned by a rice saudi arabia company.

  55. MLSsnob says:

    If you thought red bulls had a hard time drawing before, just wait until the cosmos, they’re never going to get fans. Its a shame too, nice stadium.

  56. Chupacabra says:

    Especially when you consider that the predominant nationalities of the immigrants in Flushing are Chinese and Indian/Pakistani compared to the Portuguese, Brazilian, Mexican, Ecuadorian demographics of the Ironbound.

  57. Chupacabra says:

    RBNY’s attendance/ticket sales are down 15 percent this season so the fan base is actually shrinking. And being ninth in the tri-state area basically places RBNY at the bottom of the list for major league sports in the area. NY2 will be the kiss of death.

  58. David says:

    I don’t agree, Queens is soccer mad and people in NYC just don’t want to go to Jersey, simple as that. The stadium would be a farther journey for me in Manhattan than going to see the Red Bulls but I’d still much rather go see a team play in Queens, it’s just the way it is here. The supporters group for the Cosmos has already started up and is pretty vocal. If they build it, people will come.

  59. David says:

    True but you also have to look at the numbers alone. Newark is only home to about 270k people, whereas Queens alone as over 2 mil.

  60. Joamiq says:

    Yup. My family is Bangladeshi, so I know some South Asian families in Queens. Cricket is their main sport anyway, and for the soccer fans, good luck getting them to watch anything besides Manchester United.

  61. Scott A says:

    Harrison is closer to Manhattan than this location, right next to multiple transit lines, and surrounded by an urban area. This location in Queens is literally in a park with no bars or anything around. It’s worse.

  62. Scott A says:

    OK, that’s really funny. Newark is 26 sq. miles and Queens is 178 sq. miles. North Jersey has 3.5 million people. Plus, Harrison is more convenient for Manhattan, parts of Brooklyn, Bronx, Westchester, upstate NY, rest of NJ, etc. The original NYC area team is the true NYC area team.

  63. Charles says:

    JRP! It was soo stupid and sooo off base noone got it.

    Good try though for someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about.

    67,000+ tomorrow in a real stadium.

  64. Charles says:

    Hmmm and to think I thought I just liked soccer. Thanks for the enlightenment. wow

  65. JRP says:

    Attendance is reason No 1 why the Sounders should build a soccer stadium. We all think it is awesome that your team gets numbers like that. Your fans are awesome. I can’t believe they put up with playing on a curved pitch with artificial turf. The fans in SL couldn’t wait to get a soccer stadium. Sure it was fun to sell out the 45,000 seats at the college football stadium for big games but it is better to sell out the last 5 straight home games (even against loser teams) at our 26,000 soccer specific stadium.

  66. JRP says:

    Only three teams posted a profit in the NBA last year. I run my own corp and haven’t posted a profit in 10 years. As a corporation a profit just means you pay more taxes. Companies don’t want to post a profit unless it is significant amount. So you equalized your expenses to match your revenue as much as possible. I promise there are more people interested in buying an MLS franchise. If they opened it wide up (it would be a mistake to do so) there would be dozens of people who want to buy whether teams posted a profit or not last year.

  67. JRP says:

    Canada has an MLS team?

  68. Aguinaga says:

    Any stats/census/facts to backup your “predominant nationalities” statement? Or are you just talking out of your a$$?

  69. Shawn says:

    Citifield was built in two years. It won’t take that long to build it.

  70. Shawn in NYC says:

    Harrison is not closer than flushing…taking the PATH to get to Harrison is a pain. A bigger pain is driving there…Stadium in queens will run on the 7 Line and have Long Island Rail Road access plus easy to get to by road. Its not really in a park…its right next to mass transit and next to Citifield, national tennis center… perfect location… can’t wait to it gets done. As a New Yorker, i will get season tickets as soon as it opens…