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  1. Eurosnob
    April 23, 2013

    I looked at the linked article and don’t see where Ferguson says that he rates Van Persie higher than Christiano Ronaldo.

  2. ChiTown
    April 23, 2013

    Come on Bayern, tell us more about how the Bundesliga is becoming a duopoloy and that you want more competition while simultaneously and unnecessarily (greedily) buying up the best players from every team.

    And Uli Hoeness is a lying, narcissistic crook. Makes me sad knowing the inevitability that Pep Guardiola will also be fired within a season or two and be slandered up and down the press by this garbage.

    • Juest
      April 23, 2013

      Generally, both parties to a transaction believe it is beneficial to them. Was it “greedy” of Dortmund to sell him for so much money? And how come a couple of clubs motivated by “greed” are now among the best–and most entertaining–soccer teams in the world?

      • biff
        April 23, 2013

        Dortmund had no choice. Gotze had a 37-million-euro release clause.

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        Like Biff said, Dortmund had no choice.

      • Juest
        April 23, 2013

        So Gotze compelled Dortmund to put a release clause in his contract? Sounds like a mutually beneficial agreement to me…..

        Woe is Dortmund, try to have a soccer team and all these greedy villains throw mountains of cash on them. How tragic! How unfair!!

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        Pretty much all players have a release clause, it’s not uncommon. They’re set so high that nobody will dare make a run at them.

        This transfer is the 32nd highest transfer fee in football history and the highest for a german–ever.

    • chris
      April 23, 2013

      Bundesliga > La liga. Bayern munich will rip barcelona apart

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        link to uefa.com

        La Liga > EPL > Bundesliga

      • SBI Troll
        April 23, 2013

        Some guy quoting UEFA rankings like they matter. Next thing you know he’ll be quoting FIFA International ratings.

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        The two have nothing to do with each other.

    • GW
      April 23, 2013

      Everyone has their price. Dortmund set theirs very high and Bayern met it.

      How does this make Bayern greedy?

      Hoeness being a scumbag is old news as is the fact that Bayern are overall an unpleasant bunch. But as far as I can tell they are operating inside the rules.

  3. biff
    April 23, 2013

    Gotta admit, absolutely devastated by the Gotze-to-Bayern news. I would have never expected the kid to sink so low, especially after his good buddy Marco Reus snubbed Bayern’s overtures and instead chose to move to Dortmund.

    The big mystery now is who leaked the news on the eve of the big Champions League semi-final games to the Bild newspaper, which broke the story using anonymous sources. Bayern is pleading innocence, and Dortmund coach Jurgen Klopp is saying, at least publicly, that he believes them. Could be that the culprit is someone in Spain is hoping to unsettle the German teamst. Maybe even someone who no doubt had first-hand knowledge of the deal.

    • ChiTown
      April 23, 2013

      You love a good conspiracy.

      The news was leaked because the deal is already done. Goetze signed a deal for 31.5m pounds. Bayern confirmed the deal has already been signed.

      Goetze is a Bayern Munich player already. Point your finger at Bayern trying to cause problems for Dortmund and Goetze throwing Dortmund under the bus. Big time.

      • biff
        April 23, 2013

        Huh?

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        What do you mean, huh? The deal had to be announced. You don’t think people would wonder when Goetze just didn’t suit up for Dortmund against Madrid?

      • Shaggie96
        April 23, 2013

        “…paving the way for a move this summer to Munich.”

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        He can’t move because the transfer window is closed. It opens July 1st.

        But, he can’t play for Dortmund anymore, including in tomorrow’s UCL match.

        They sabotaged Dortmund.

      • Jerrod
        April 23, 2013

        He’ll absolutely play out the rest of the champions league.

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        I’ve read reports (reuters) that the fee has already been paid. If that’s the case then he can’t play.

        If not, then he can play. But if that’s the case then yeah, I wouldn’t put him anywhere near that field. He will be booed mercilessly.

      • wides
        April 23, 2013

        It doesn’t matter if the fee has been paid, the transfer window doesn’t open until the end of the season. He is still owned by Dortmund until the summer.

        You can’t just buy a player during the season to prevent him from playing for his current club. That’s what transfer windows are for.

      • biff
        April 23, 2013

        @ChiTown: First of all, the dust has not yet settled on this story, which is front page news in Germany. What I am saying about the timing of the announcement is that most German commentators are in agreement that it was timed to cause major disruption to Dortmund (while some think it also could be a destabilizing influence on Bayern later today).

        Jurgen Klopp said in a press conference today that he was informed April 11, the day after the win over Malaga, that Gotze was going to go to Bayern. Both sides agreed to keep it quiet until after the CL semifinals. But then the story was leaked to the Bild Zeitung and only after that news story was published online late yesterday in Germany did Dortmund issue a statement today followed by a statement from Bayern. There was speculation in the press that Bayern did it intentionally to damage Dortmund before tomorrow’s game against Madrid, but, as I said, Klopp says he does not believe Bayern is the culprit.

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        Well, Klopp wouldn’t openly say if he thought they were anyways.

        Then we’re in agreement, Bayern did it to cause havok and distract from the tax fraud scandal of Hoeness.

      • biff
        April 23, 2013

        My first feeling was the same, that Bayern, which is very good at PR, leaked the Gotze news to torpedo Dortmund and to take the focus off Hoenness. But Klopp today made a fairly convincing argument that the news also has the potential to destabilize Bayern against Barcelona and that he did not think Bayern would stoop so low. Think about it, a tremendous young player going to Bayern personally requested by Pep Guardiola. That will no doubt have some Bayern players worried about their role with the team.

        And then I got to thinking, if the Gotze news really could destabilize Bayern against Barcelona, what one person has the most to gain if Barcelona is able to score a couple of away goals today against Bayern and knocks them out of the tournament? And that same person, it could be argued has the most to lose if Bayern wins the Champions League (and the Bundesliga and the Pokal Cup = Treble).

      • kelso
        April 23, 2013

        YES!!! This is a great one

      • kelso
        April 23, 2013

        As long as we’re just going to wildly speculate, I’ll say that Ozil was in the loop somehow and leaked the info to destabilize Dortmund prior to THEIR semifinal matchup.

      • biff
        April 23, 2013

        ha-ha. U R a real rocket scientist, Kelso. Why don’t you be a pal and interpret the whole thing for the rest of us.

      • kelso
        April 23, 2013

        no seriously, I liked yours the best (about guardiola).

        However, I disagree that this is anything but par for the course with young superstar soccer players. Also, the nonsense about him not being able to play bc a fee has already been paid.

        You didn’t post all of those thoughts, just sayin’.

  4. ChiTown
    April 23, 2013

    This guy is done in Germany outside of pockets of Munich. He is already being–rightfully–branded as a traitor and a mercenary.

    Abandoning your team days before the biggest match of your career to sign with your clubs top rival who is also in the competition you’re in. That is scumbag steve of epic proportions. Unforgivable.

    • kelso
      April 23, 2013

      You’re right! This guy is totally different than every other young super star!

    • GW
      April 24, 2013

      ChiTown,

      “He is already being–rightfully–branded as a traitor and a mercenary.”

      That is a little dramatic. He is no such thing.

      Football is a business and Gotze is an asset, a very valuable asset. Wait until you see what Dortmund get for Lewandoski. 10% is typical for the player’s cut. So Gotze’s cut is 4.8 million dollar, 3.7 million euros . It sure beats 30 pieces of silver.

      It’s worth noting that B Dortmund is the only publicly traded club in the BL. And that until Klopp signed on in 2008 they were doing poorly. They needed to borrow 2 million from biggest rival Bayern in 2003 to make payroll. Then they nearly went bankrupt in 2005.

      Who knew.

      Since Klopp came they have done better. In 2012 their revenue was about 189.1 million euros. Which means that Gotze’s sale, 37 million euros , if reports are really true, would amount to nearly 20% of that year’s revenue.

      Don’t think for a minute they have forgotten how close they were recently to oblivion.
      If everyone was in agreement and it seems everyone was, then you get a big deal like that done ASAP. You hear all the time about deals like this falling thru at the last minute, so I can’t fault anyone for nailing down a deal as big as this as soon as possible.

      I think you forget, Chi Town, that Gotze is a perishable asset one that can go from 48 million dollars to zero with one bad tackle.

      The criticism here should be reserved for whoever leaked this.

  5. Matt DCU
    April 23, 2013

    Very bad timing for Dortmund. Hopefully the fans don’t turn on Gotze during the semifinals

    • ChiTown
      April 23, 2013

      Go check out his Facebook page–he’s being ripped to pieces.

      From reports out of Reuters–the other players didn’t even know it was coming and Klopp said jokingly that he could have made it a little bit worse by doing it 4 hours before kickoff.

      He’s destroyed his reputation.

    • CHR
      April 23, 2013

      There is no chance they won’t.
      He will be booed every time he touches the ball. Probably for the rest of his career.

      • biff
        April 23, 2013

        This is true, CHR. It most likely will be tomorrow in Dortmund if Gotze takes the field. Nobody expected this and the fans feel deeply betrayed and are totally pi**ed at Gotze. The club has already issued statements asking fans to be kind to Gotze, but ain’t no way, Jose. It might be wise for Klopp simply to leave him off the roster. Plus, I would imagine some of Gotze’s teammates about right now think that he is a total duckhead.

      • biff
        April 23, 2013

        …It most likely will be *ugly* tomorrow in Dortmund if Gotze takes the field…

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        I know you love your German news, so I imagine you’ve read all the quotes by teammates essentially saying they had no idea this was coming.

  6. ChiTown
    April 23, 2013

    Seriously, this is scum of the ultimate and highest proportions and should result in major sanctions against Bayern Munich.

    Activating the release clause on your rivals star player the day before their big match should result in forfeiture of their spot in the Champions League and a ban for several years.

    This trumps anything I’ve ever seen in World Football.

    • ChiTown
      April 23, 2013

      And if some early reports are true, Bayern actually spoke with Goetze before forcing his release clause, which is a huge no-no.

      In a perfect world they would be banned from European football. Alas, this is UEFA and Bayern’s a cash cow.

      • John
        April 23, 2013

        A typical contract requires the player to agree with joining the club in order to use the buy-out clause. The current club normally demands to be a part of the discussions. So it’s required and within the rules for Bayern to have talks with both Dortmund and Goetze in order to use the buy-out clause.

        I suspect that last week’s comments from Klopp regarding the monopoly statement relate directly to this deal going down. There was likely an agreement within the clubs to keep it quiet, but obviously that wasn’t honored. I’m guessing that Hoeness might have leaked the information in order to distract from the news regarding his tax situation.

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        Oh I guarantee he leaked for that distraction.

        But, Dortmunds CEO released this, “As of the current moment, no official representative of Bayern Munich has been in contact with Borussia Dortmund regarding the matter.”

      • John
        April 23, 2013

        ” “We’re obviously disappointed beyond measure, but would emphasise that both Mario and his agent have acted strictly within the terms of the contract,” said Borussia Dortmund CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke.”

        – Also a part of the Dortmund press release. Although this is ethically very poor from Bayern, it appears to be legally acceptable.

      • ChiTown
        April 23, 2013

        I think it’s important to note that Hans only said that Mario and his agent have acted within the terms of the contract.

        He made no mention of Bayern acting within the rules–even going so far as to say that they’ve had no contact with them.

    • kelso
      April 23, 2013

      This is a huge exaggeration

  7. Lost in Space
    April 23, 2013

    I’m a little surprised….23 comments posted and no-one has mentioned the linked article to the anti-corruption expert quiting her role….or the comments she made regarding the reasoning.
    Have we become so jaded and resigned to the fact that FIFA is providing lip service when they express their desire to “Improve transparency and promote propriety” within FIFA?
    Recommendations that won’t be taken forward to the Congress (meeting in May) include:
    1) Disclosure of senior executive pay
    2) Adding independent board members and independent integrity checks for new members to FIFA’s decision-making executive committee.
    3) Fixed age and term limits

    • ChiTown
      April 23, 2013

      Water is wet my friend.

    • Nate Dollars
      April 23, 2013

      “Have we become so jaded and resigned to the fact that FIFA is providing lip service when they express their desire to “Improve transparency and promote propriety” within FIFA?”

      yes.

    • Travis in Miami
      April 23, 2013

      Modern society is suffering from corruption fatigue in general – not just in sport.

      • John
        April 23, 2013

        Corruption is as old as the first deal/agreement ever made. It is not a product of modern society, it’s a part of human civilization.

      • Travis in Miami
        April 23, 2013

        True, but from time to time throughout human civilization people get fed up and act. At the moment there seems to be a lot of fatigue from John Q Public. Until this changes nothing changes – other than an increase in corruption.

      • John
        April 23, 2013

        Fair enough. We might see that impact showing itself in the attendance in Italy, which is directly impacting the ability of Serie A clubs ability to compete.

      • David JS
        April 24, 2013

        John: +10000000. People seem to love this “modern society” ruse and it’s just silly.

  8. Reboot
    April 23, 2013

    With Lewandowski and Gotze headed to Bayern, is it safe to say Mario Gomez and Arjen Robben are on their way out?

    • biff
      April 23, 2013

      My thoughts, also. Although most say that the first casualty will be Tony Kroos, I think Robben will be gone, with his Madrid background and desire to be a club starter to improve his Dutch national team standing before WC 2014.

      I don’t think Lewandoski will end up Bayern this summer, Dortmund owns him until 2014 and I think would be willing to let him suffer next year and let him go free rather than sell him to Enemy Number One. Plus, I think Lewi personally would prefer England.

      • Bilbo Baggins
        April 23, 2013

        Toni Kroos gone because he lacks pace? He is one of my favorite young Germans… where will he end up then? Surely not another German side…

        As for Lewandowski I agree, He would do well as a target forward in England.

        Will Pep introduce the False 9 at Bayern and throw Gotze into the “Messi” role with Muller and Ribery on the flanks?

  9. Mike V.
    April 23, 2013

    FC Hollywood gets richer. The dirty does the dirty on Dortmund. Bayern knew his release clause and they leaped at the opportunity. It does reak of douchebagness but all is fair if they met the clause. I hate that Gotze is going to Bayern. Hate it. But Dortmund has a knack for finding and developing players so I’m pretty confident they will use that money wisely.

  10. Josh
    April 23, 2013

    I was a click away from ordering a Gotze Dortmund jersey the other day. Now I have no idea what to think. Favorite player on favorite team, just gone. It’s like baseball all over again trying to be a KC Royals fan…

    • ChiTown
      April 23, 2013

      Ouch.

    • biff
      April 23, 2013

      What Gotze has done is unforgivable. He had a contract with Dortmund for 5m euros a year until 2016 so his financial future was secure even if injured so no reason to rush it and he could have waited until after the season to do the deal.

  11. Strider257
    April 23, 2013

    Dan, this is Sir Alex 13th Premiership title, but no. 20 for the club.

  12. Jeb
    April 23, 2013

    Prediction: Bayern 3-1 Barca

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