Who should the USMNT call up for September’s qualifiers?

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With a record 12-match winning streak, and a plethora of options to choose from, Jurgen Klinsmann is sitting pretty as he and the U.S. Men’s National Team head into September’s World Cup qualifiers.

Costa Rica and Mexico should both provide stiff tests next month, but given the wave of confidence the U.S. team is riding right now it seems inevitable that the Americans will earn the necessary results to secure a ticket to the 2014 World Cup.

And who will Klinsmann turn to in order to get that job done? He has a multitude of options, and the team’s recent win vs. Bosnia and Herzegovina only gave him more players to consider for the task.

Here are the 24 players we see getting the call for the USMNT World Cup qualifiers in September:


GOALKEEPERS- Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, Nick Rimando

DEFENDERS– Brad Evans, Matt Besler, Omar Gonzalez, John Brooks, Clarence Goodson, Geoff Cameron, Fabian Johnson, DaMarcus Beasley

MIDFIELDERS– Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Landon Donovan, Alejandro Bedoya, Joe Corona, Mix Diskerud, Graham Zusi, Kyle Beckerman, Sacha Kljestan

FORWARDS– Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Eddie Johnson, Aron Johannsson


Some thoughts on the projected roster:

The goalkeepers are set. Not much debating this trio.

Defensively, this group excludes Timmy Chandler, who seems to be persona non grata at this point, as well as Michael Orozco Fiscal, who misses out due to the number of quality centerback options. John Brooks showed well in his USMNT debut against Bosnia & Herzegovina, and should get a call. The real question is whether he is ready to accept it and the potential cap-tying appearance that could come with it.

In midfield, there are no real surprises in this group. Sacha Kljestan misses out, but it wouldn’t really be a shock if he made his way onto the squad ahead of Mix Diskerud, who didn’t exactly shine against Bosnia. Kyle Beckerman and Graham Zusi make their way back to the squad, while Jose Torres falls just short.

Forward is where things could really get tricky. We list five fowards, though both Dempsey and Eddie Johnson can play in midfield roles. The emergence of Aron Johannsson could cause problems for someone like Terrance Boyd, who could wind up being the odd man out of Klinsmann decides to bring an extra central midfielder.

UPDATE– With Terrence Boyd sidelined with a dislocated shoulder, he won’t be back in time for the upcoming qualifiers. We have replaced him with Sacha Kljestan.


What do you think of the projected squad? Who missed the cut that you feel should be on the team? Who made our projected squad that you are happy to see on the team?

Share your thoughts below.

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389 Responses to Who should the USMNT call up for September’s qualifiers?

  1. ——-Johansson—-Altidore———

    • MemRook says:

      IF that is the lineup, Donovan and Deuce will be switched.

    • Ian says:

      I think we’ll see Beasley at fullback rather than Johnson. I’m not completely sold on him for a qualifier.

      • bryan says:

        yeah, i think it’ll be:


        i don’t see Bacon starting and i think JK sticks with Johnson at LM despite him playing LB for Hoffenheim.

        • divers suck says:

          I’m not sold on Cameron at RB at the International level. It’s very puzzling to me since he’s a mainstay there at Stoke and plays well. It’s semi mind boggling to me that it doesn’t (as of yet) transfer to the NATS and that Brad Evans has, in fact, been better while not playing RB for club…

          • bryan says:

            i agree. i think Evans and Cameron are both so-so options at RB. same with Parkhurst. Chandler provides much more but the guy is out of form and lacking confidence. not sure he’s the answer right now. frankly, only Lichaj seems to offer the balance we need at RB but JK has yet to show he will call him up.

            touch situation at RB but i think both are capable of holding up against CR and Mexico.

        • joshw says:

          i’ve got the same projection – sorry for the redundant post…

    • malkin says:

      Looks good to me, but Bacon won’t get the start…yet

    • Gary Page says:

      Very possible. However, playing in Costa Rica is always difficult so Klinsmann may play a 4-5-1. That could mean Beasley at LB and FJ going to left mid. Or it could mean bringing Zusi into the middle. Another possibility is a 4-4-2 with EJ pairing with Altidore as they did in Bosnia. EJ is a lot more experienced at the international level and has the speed to get behind defenses; I think he is more likely to start than Johansson. My final thought is that J Jones picked up another red car in his last game. I think in a hostile environment we might be better off with Cameron pairing with Bradley and putting Evans in at RB since he has been doing so well there.

      • joshw says:

        Not what I would necessarily select, but this is what I expect to see (not really a 4-4-2, with Dempsey in the hole):


        FW: Altidore. Dempsey over Johannsson because it would upset the group to start Johannsson so soon.

        Wings: Fabian and Donovan ahead of Zusi. I think Klins is starting to believe that FJ needs to be closer to the goal. Easy to justify dropping Zusi because he is coming off an injury. Donovan has done enough to reclaim his starting position.

        CM: Jones-Bradley is the pairing, folks. Get used to it.

        Outside backs: If FJ is on the wing, Beasley is the LB. Cameron might pip Evans because we have more depth at CB and CM now and Cameron is starting at RB in the PL.

        CB: I think Gonzo needs to have a good game to stay ahead of Goodson. Interesting that Gonzo didn’t start the GC final. Besler is the most trusted at the moment.

        Keeper: Timmy.

        • bryan says:

          i think Zusi, given his injury, may even be below Bedoya now. i think with LD back, Bedoya in good form, and F. Johnson at LM, Zusi will be lucky to start. and Corona is making him sweat too.

          • joshw says:

            i think the new depth at forward (johannsson) and the wings (EJ, Bedoya, Donovan now that he’s back) is going to impact Corona. i understand he plays more central for his club, and he has had most of his success for us when he tucks inside. he doesn’t look like he has the wheels for the wing to me, and Shea brings more as a late sub on the wing than Corona. if everyone stays healthy, i see Corona competing against Mix and Sacha (and maybe Torres) for the CM “spark” substitute role. Torres is an interesting player because he has shown good quickness (if not pace) on the wings, can play centrally and has the natural left foot. lots of good players for a few seats on the plane.

            • bryan says:

              sure, Corona is absolutely affected by all the RM options too. like i said, i think Zusi is below LD and Bedoya at this moment. and Corona is right below him. so Zusi and Corona are both being impacted by LD coming back and the emergence of Bedoya.

              • joshw says:

                and with Mix getting all the minutes in the center of the park at the GC and Sacha against Bosnia, it’s looking tough for him.

              • bryan says:

                yeah, i mean, Corona was never competing at CM anyway. not with the current group. his only chance was at RM.

                and like you said, Mix is going to be the guy who comes off the bench at CM.

              • KingGoogleyEye says:

                bryan: Altidore, Dempsey, Jones, Bradley, Besler, Howard. Those seem locked to start (and the position they’d play too). Goodson or Gonzalez? I don’t know, so for now I will just say “Goodzalez.”

                The challenging aspect of RM has more to do with RB. I will be shocked if Brad Evans doesn’t start at RB. That said, we all know he fills the role best when he has a defensively-capable RM in front of him. So, on that defense aspect alone, do you rate Bedoya > Zusi? I don’t. Thus, I think it’s still very likely that Zusi is above Bedoya, despite Bedoya’s form.

                Whether Zusi makes it onto the pitch or not depends on what happens over on the other side of the field at LM and LB. As much as I hate seeing it, Beasley seems locked in at LB, putting FabJo at LM (and EJ on the bench). In that case, Landycakes is most certainly the RM—since Deuce and Jozy are up top, of course. IF JK would put FabJo at LB then Landy could play LM and Zusi starts at RM.

                I know JK seems to love FabJo as LM, but I wonder if that’s more about just wanting a really good LM than it is about thinking FabJo stinks as LB or that he’s always our best option at LM. Thus, Landy at LM fills the requirement for a great LM, which allows FabJo to play LB (because he’s better at it than DMB).

                In other words:
                subs: Bacon-for-Dempsey, Bedoya-for-Zusi, and Brooks-for-Goodzalez (this last sub having nothing to do with this match and everything to do with long-term strategy).

                But again, I don’t *expect* this lineup, because I think Beasley will play LB, pushing FabJo to LM, pushing Landy to RM, pushing Zusi to the bench.

              • bryan says:

                King – sounds like the only thing we disagree on is Zusi and Bedoya. my line up above (maybe below?) has Beasley at LB and FJ at LM. there is no way JK doesn’t go with that, meaning LD is at RM over Zusi/Bedoya anyway. personally, i think Omar is a lock at CB though.

                as for Bedoya, one of the things SBI, and basically every other report during the Gold Cup, noted was how good Bedoya did defensively. he was always helping out Parkhurst. so i’m not actually sure i agree Zusi is better at that.

                further, that was one of the things he got positive reviews on during the PSG game. non-stop energy, defensive cover, and solid getting forward. not to mention, he was playing RWB; implying the coach thinks he is capable defensively. don’t you think?

                Zusi has done a extremely good job helping out on defense too, so he’s no slouch. it’s good competition though. LD/Zusi/Bedoya/Corona is some nice RM depth.

              • KingGoogleyEye says:

                bryan: all good points. You’re probably right about Omar > Clarence. And it’s probably what I’d go with too, if only because Omar has more future with JK. Well, maybe I’d lock in a win with Clarence there first :)

                We definitely agree that the Zusi/Bedoya battle is all academic since LD will be playing 90 min at RM anyway.

                I didn’t mean to seem critical of Bedoya on defense. It’s just that we’ve seen Zusi+Evans play expertly together. If Evans plays RB, that’s where I think Zusi gets the edge. That and Zusi hasn’t done anything to “lose” the spot. The most intriguing experiment would be to play one of those guys at RB *instead of* Evans.

              • bryan says:

                King – haha it will certainly be interesting to see who gets that other CB spot. i also like Goodson seeing as my wife went to HS with him and he’s from Virginia (Fairfax County) which is where I am from too. but, like you said, i think JK sticks with Omar since he is the future. we’ll see…

                very fair point about Zusi and Evans. they absolutely have a chemistry and Evans appears to be our RB. that absolutely gives him the edge. the only thing i think Zusi has done to “lose” the spot is get injured…just unfortunate. but he’s back and playing, so i’m not sure that will have too much of an impact. so you are probably spot on.

                reallllly curious to see the roster and the starting XI.

    • divers suck says:

      Replace Johansson with EJ to start and Bacon coming in as a sub with at least 20 to 30 minutes PT….

  2. William the Terror says:

    That looks about right.

  3. Tensnake says:

    I thought Boyd is injured, who would fill in his spot? Wondo?

    • Ian says:

      Wondo isn’t quite WCQ caliber. He’s great against Belize-level competition, but I don’t see him making the 18 for Mexico.

      • Tensnake says:

        So do we take Agudelo?

        • Luke says:

          Ive’s has already updated line up minus Boyd and slotting in Sascha. No need for Wondo or Agudelo. Donovan can slot in at forward if needed. Remember that Klinsmann’s formations usually have one striker. My guess is Altidore, Donovan and Dempsey start and Johannsson and Johnson are on the bench. This is plenty of depth for 2 games.

  4. Dc says:

    I think Johannsson’s debut was was of the best I can remember. I am hoping he gets called up again. I do love Boyd, but I have a feeling he isn’t doing something right in training, or we would have seen him at least a bit in the last year.

  5. Yankeedom says:

    I think Boyd gets left at home. Danny Williams gets called in.
    If Brooks can’t go due to his injury knock Orozco Fiscal gets the call.

  6. HoboMike says:

    Welcome back, Ives. You were sorely missed.

  7. Weston John says:

    This is who I’d like to see:

    • HoboMike says:

      I’d probably put Donovan in Zusi’s spot, Johnson at LM, and Beasley at LB.

      • ATX_Colin says:

        Do yall not realize how important J Jones is to us. Cameron cannot come close to what he does in our cm. One game against a weak Panama side doesnt prove ish.

        • Tony in Quakeland says:

          The thing is that Cameron stays back more and protects the back four, freeing Bradley to go more forward. Cameron is not as good as Jones on an ultimate level, but in the context of this team, Cameron may help more by letting us get more out of Bradley and more protection.

          He also reduces the chance of the damaging foul leading to a freekick The thing is that Cameron stays back more and protects the back four, freeing Bradley to go more forward. Cameron is not as good as Jones on an ultimate level, but in the context of this team, Cameron may help more by letting us get more out of Bradley and more protection.

          He also reduces the chance of the damaging foul leading to a freekick opportutniy

          • GW says:

            One game against Panama does not produce enough evidence to warrant replacing a more experienced more talented player with an international newbie who does not really have a position on this team.

            Cameron may be less of a card risk than Jones but he has made his share of mistakes resulting in opposition goals.

            Going on this year’s games and how the team seems to shaping up, Cameron is JK’s utility guy. JK is clearly not sold on Cameron at RB full time since he chose to experiment with Evans there after Geoff had a few games at right back..

            Cameron is going to the World Cup but so is Jones.

        • Gary Page says:

          The problem is J Jones is a card waiting to happen. If I’m an opposition coach, I’m telling my players to bait him as much as possible.

          • GW says:

            Mr Page,

            Opposition coaches having been telling their players bait Jones for his entire career.

            He’s still a starter and his style remains basically unchanged. You don’t get to be an enforcer at Jones’ level by being as stupid and out of control as you seem to think Jones is.

    • Page says:

      I like the idea of the 4-4-1-1, but I think Jozy plays best with a partner up top. For example, bringing on EJ to partner with him after HT in the Bosnia game made a huge difference.

    • Josh says:

      Gotta get Jermaine Jones in there. I would move do this:


      This way it give Klinsmann 3 solid attacking options off the bench in Donovan, EJ, and Johannson. Also, I think Beasley should get a start in the back 4. He’s been solid.

  8. HoboMike says:

    I think with the addition of Bacon (is this settled? are we calling him this now?) and the return of Donovan, EJ is officially surplus to requirements. He’s got people ahead of him at every position.

    That said, I think he still gets a call.

    • joshw says:

      I agree that it’s hard to see EJ starting with a full strength squad. But I think he is good to have as a substitute for the qualities he brings that are different than the rest of the subs, and I think Klins would probably start him at striker if Jozy were not available.

    • bryan says:

      and the great thing is, even if he does start over AJ, having either one of them come off the bench is going to be awesome. both can provide a spark.

    • divers suck says:

      EJ is ahead of Bacon in the pecking order, for now. Lets let Aron get some time in the role as a sub for 20+ minutes to start before we start anointing him to anything, yet.

    • DC Josh says:

      It has to be Bacon. I fully expect to see a “Bacon” USA kit at the Mexico qualifier.

      But Donovan and EJ play different positions, with Eddie on the left and Donovan floating up top/on the right. I still see Eddie making the squad and contributing in some positive form.

    • Gary Page says:

      Remember when a lot of people thought Chandler was the answer at RB and then he went to Honduras and couldn’t handle either the heat or the intensity? It is quite a difference from playing in Northern Europe to a WC qualifier in Central America. If Johansson starts and plays well I will be very surprised. EJ’s experience is a valuable asset not to be overlooked.

  9. Sinter says:

    I’d rather Sean Johnson over Nick Rimando and Sacha Kljestan over Kyle Beckerman… if for some reason Howard and Guzan are both hurt, we’re pretty screwed regardless, so may as well get the young guy accustomed to the hostile experience of playing in Costa Rica (albeit from the bench).

    Also, A Jo is not starting, regardless of current form. I can easily see him being the first offensive option off the bench, however, should we need a late goal.

    • downintexas says:

      Agree, with Rimando. He is a steller goal keeper and a solid option if both Howard and Guzan both go down, but that not going to happen. Might as well take Johnson or Hamid, let them experiance a WC since they will be there come 2018 or 2022.

      • divers suck says:

        Don’t rule out Howard or Guzan for 2018…USA GK’s seem to get better with age…;^)

        • Charles says:

          JK has always said that he likes and trusts an older, more experienced GK as the 3rd option. He has stated that you are an injury and a red card away from having to throw a keeper into a pressure WC situation, and he simply trusts having that older experienced guy rather than a younger guy who might get too overwhelmed. (I forget what interview he made this point, but it was about a year ago). Plus we have done it before (Meola beat out Howard in 02, and Hannerman went in 10). So as much as it would be nice to have some of the younger guys get the experience, unless something drastic happens and Howard or Guzan cant go, then Rimando will be our #3 keeper in Brazil.

        • zztoppppp says:

          I will say that Guzan is an absolute lock for 2018. He will be backed up by Johnson and Cropper.

      • OPMG says:

        Bring in a player who is clearly inferior to another because you don’t think you’ll need him and you want him to know what it’s like to watch games from the bench in another country…what kind of logic is that?

  10. blokhin says:

    Klestjan over Beckerman for me, but it’s really irrelevant who the 5th string CM would be…

    I think Fiscal makes it since he can play RB and CB


    back ups:


  11. Clyde Frog says:

    The slacker is back. About time.

    Seriously though, hope you enjoyed your time here in America do Sul.

  12. Matty says:

    Eric Lichaj,

    No reason not to bring him in JK. However, hard to argue with the results we have got without him. So the USA should be fine either way. But it could get messy if we lose a few to injuries or cards and we have people playing out of position. Lichaj is a good cover at RB or LB

    • Ben says:

      He isn’t going to give a stop to a guy who hasn’t been playing in qualifiers to this point. Let us ensure qualification, then you will see Lichaj.

      • Matty says:

        JK has started several players this cycle that did not have much or any time before. Gonzo, Evans, Besler. I do not think its far fetched to think he would not to do the same thing here. But I agree, its been working so far, no need to mess with it now.

        But even if Lichaj did not start. He should still be there right? surely over Parkhurst and TC. It was possible JK could hand JAB a start if he came in. I do not think that will happen though. Lichaj should be in camp at the least. Like I said, he gives us cover at two positions. plus he is in form, not doubt on that.

        • GW says:

          You seem to think Lichaj’s ability to cover two positions is unique.
          Of the guys who have played fullback for JK, Fiscal, Cameron, Evans,Chandler, Parkhurst, DMB, Fabian, Castillo, and Torres all can play two or more positions.

          • Matty says:

            I agree with that, but of the guys who you mentioned, Lichaj has looked ( IMO) better than Torres, Castillo, Parkhurst and Chandler at LB. And looked better than Parkhurst, Cameron, and at times Chandler at RB ( basing this off the 2011GC so its hard to compare ) I will give Evans credit, he has played well. But he is not even a RB for his MLS club. And while he has done good enough, he is out of position. Its not unique to play a few positions, but I think he is the best option at RB and I was using his ability to play RB or LB as another reason why he should be brought at least into camp

  13. ATX_Colin says:

    What position is Cameron playing for Stoke currently? I dont believe we need to use him as a CM, he CAN play the position but we have plenty of dep that CM . Yes I know he played the position YEARS ago in the mls but I dont think he warrents a look at cm currently with the list of players ahead of him.

  14. Nihal says:

    What about Arriola, he’s in fine form. Also Lichaj.

    • slowleftarm says:

      You want to call in a guy with four first team appearances in his life for these QC qualifiers? Why?

      • TheFrenchOne says:

        because he’s the flavor of the week. this is what many fellow posters do

        • Nihal says:

          I’m not saying play him. Just bring him into camp.

          • GW says:

            What do you think the USMNT staff does at these camps?
            Especially one of these mid-season, two qualifiers in a row camps? They will have 23 players coming in from all over the place to Miami, do fitness tests, train, fly to Costa Rica, play and then turn around fly to Columbus four days later. And these are WC qualifiers very important so the tension should be quite high.
            If I’m JK I want every single person associated with the team at that point to be focused on the task at hand. I don’t want anyone being distracted with some new kid who has never been there before and needs to be oriented and evaluated. Is this guy the equivalent to the next version of Messi/CRonaldo combined?
            If not my focus would be 100% on the guys who might play those two games; especially because the U.S. has 10 players now carrying yellow cards: Jermaine Jones,Jozy Altidore, Michael Bradley, Matt Besler, Geoff Cameron, Brad Davis, Clint Dempsey, Brad Evans, Tim Howard and Fabian Johnson.
            Anyone who JK calls into this camp had better be good enough to play in these games because he might have to.
            But that’s just me; I’ve never attended one of these camps so maybe I’m wrong and all they do is party.

        • QuakerOtis says:

          He’s been the backup QB of the last two years.

    • Tom says:

      That pedal on the left…you should tap it.

  15. Josh says:

    Still going with my crazy idea.

    This is what I would like to see not what I think will be seen. I want to see something different and at the same time get the most out of the players I have. I like Donovan better on the inside because he is still a great attack piece. He has great service but I think someone else can do just as well. Evans has great service from the outside. Jones is my crazy pick. I don’t like him in the midfield anymore, but I like his presence on the field. I would like to see him as a CB as an experiment. He is a scrapper and a good defensive midfielder, but so is Bradley and I would like to see more attacking support…Especially with two true forwards now.

    Altidore, johanson
    Dempsey, donovan, Bradley, evans
    johnson, Gonzales, Jones, Parkhurst

  16. TomM says:

    No mention of Herc. Is he injured?

  17. StevieBob says:

    My guess is that we see two very different lineups between the two games. I’m guessing FJ is going to start at LM for both games. Hope to see Chandler called in. Before the Honduras game, he was really rocking it. I still don’t understand the “falling out” since he is now cap tied. Does anybody have any beta?

    • Paul says:

      He has been in horrible form including his cap-tying game.

    • Yankeedom says:

      I think Klinsmann realizes if he gave Landon the whole “you have to prove your commitment”/tough love before you can make it back on to the national team scene, its only fair he give Chandler the same treatment.

      • Mister JC says:

        + 1

        I like Chandler and hope things work out so he can get back to the team. In the meantime, he’s got to prove himself…

    • bryan says:

      unfortunately Chandler just hasn’t been in good form with his club team. even got relegated to the bench. i believe he is starting again, so it is possible he could get the call. but i wouldn’t bet on it.

    • dcpohl says:

      There’s a rumor going around that he is afraid of flying.

  18. Ryan says:

    Anyone else see the Instagram pic of Boyd headed to Georgia, (country not state), for Europa League? Would he travel still if not going to make the game day squad? Ives, any inside scoop on his recovery?

    • Sloan says:

      Usually shoulder injuries like the one he had takes less time to heal than first expected. I would expect (and hope!) to see him playing tomorrow and in one of the upcoming qualifiers because he has not had a big chance to show what he can do on the international stage.

  19. Ed says:


    Probably never happen but this is the lineup I’d go with.

  20. Roman Lewandowski says:

    Let’s make the calls for Lichaj too hard for Klinsmann to ignore.

  21. MiamiAl says:

    Hurry back Steve Cherundolo!!!

  22. AJ Striker says:

    Rumor has it this Eric Lichaj guy is a pretty good RB.

  23. Clyde Frog says:

    These comments read as if people think Eric Lichaj holds the key to a USA WC 2014 championship.

  24. Raymon says:

    Two wins and we’re in right? No experimenting, esp against Mex. Ives, your lineup is spot on. Although I wouldnt be surprised if Aron Bacon or EJ missed out to make room for Herc. The MX game is gonna be too huge to have a competitive debut, so the only tweak I would make is to hold the bacon this round.

    • Yankeedom says:

      I think its down to 4 points and we’re in.

    • Ben James says:

      JK isn’t shy about giving young inexperienced players opportunities. Given how well AJ played against Bosnia and how he’s been playing in Holland, it would be a shock if he wasn’t on the roster. I wouldn’t be surprised if he played either.

    • nick says:

      Herc is still hurt no? no way he makes this team especially not playing a game for the Xolos yet.

    • DC Josh says:

      Everybody knows there is always room for bacon, even on cereal.

  25. bryan says:

    i think Ives has it. with only Evans and Cameron really as RBs, it’ll be interesting to see if JK sticks with Evans or goes back to Cameron. it seemed JK was done using him there, but he continues to get playing time there at a higher level than Evans.

    really excited to see this team. i’m hoping everyone stays healthy. and yes, i would like to see Lichaj but i’m done worrying about that. who knows what JK will do.

    • Josh D says:

      Evans is a better RB in Klinsi’s system. Although Cameron plays in the PL, he plays as a defensive RB, whereas Klinsi prefers one who contributes to the attack. That’s what’s limiting Cameron’s time on the national team.

      • bryan says:

        i agree and disagree, i touched on this somewhere else in here. neither Cameron, Evans, or Parkhurst provide the offensive/defensive mix that JK wants from his fullbacks. we’ve been forced into using them given Dolo’s injury, but JK prefers a fullback like Chandler. obviously he’s not being used for multiple reasons that we won’t get into. so i agree with you that Cameron is not going to provide the offense JK wants.

        i disagree that Evans is better offensively. i don’t think there is a difference really. Evans contributed less offense in his last game than Parkhurst did in the Gold cup by a significant amount. Parkhurst was getting 100+ passes (sure, 25% were off target) in forward positions. since i don’t think Parkhurst is more offensive than Evans, i just find it hard to agree that Evans is any better than the rest at getting forward. i think they are all pretty weak offensively. Parkhurst at least had the benefit of playing weaker competition, but i think those three, after 10 games playing the same teams, would end up with similar numbers getting forward.

        all three have been solid defensively though. so it’s not the end of the world.

        • away goals says:

          Parkhurst could get forward during the gold cup because we spent more time in possession AND faced minimal attacking threats.

          It’s comparing apples and some futuristic food source that has eliminated all of agriculture as we know it.

          • bryan says:

            to be honest, we had the same possession. the US has held the majority of possession during most of the 12-game winning streak. so i disagree on that point.

            like i said, Parkhurst was bound to get forward more against Gold Cup teams. i already made that point. in fact, i used Parkhurt’s offensive production in the Gold Cup as an example of what is usually abnormal for Parkhurst. against better teams, he isn’t getting forward as much and when he would, chances are he would suck at crossing just like he did in the Gold Cup.

            after establishing that, i said Evans isn’t better than Parkhurst offensively, so there is no reason to think Evans would do more than Parkhurst against WCQ squads. showing that i agree all three of the mentioned RBs are not good going forward.

            so like i said, it is kind of apple/oranges but despite that, the conclusion is the same. Cameron, Evans, and Parkhurst do not offer enough going forward…against any competition. that’s what i was getting at in a round about way.

      • DC Josh says:

        Evans has really impressed me in recent US games.

  26. Scott e Dio93 says:

    Donovan is more of forward than Dempsey, Dempsey better on flanks or playing behind of forwards. Sadly, I have feeling Eddie Johnson is getting called, Eddie Johnson is mid level CONCACAF player nothing more, Eddie Johnson isn’t enough for elite level.

    • slowleftarm says:

      Makes no sense.

      • Tony in Quakeland says:

        Yes, it does. Add to it that Donovan is in better scoring form right now than Dempsey, I’d rather see him paired with Jozy.

      • Scott e Dio93 says:

        Makes huge sense. Dempsey isn’t a forward, and Donovan is far superior player playing as a forward than Dempsey. And, Eddie Johnson is mediocre at elite International game.

    • bryan says:

      like you said, Dempsey is good playing behind the forwards. Dempsey will continue playing that role like he did in the last set of qualifiers. the same spot LD played during the Gold Cup. LD is better out wide than Dempsey. so in JK’s version of a 4-4-2, Dempsey will play behind the striker like before and LD will replace Zusi at RM.

      that’s what my guess is.

      • Scott e Dio93 says:

        Dempsey got a bit lazy with Bob Bradley, Dempsey start it in flanks in the World Cup and did damage. Donovan on right flank would limit our attacks, Donovan is more natural #10 or #11.

        • bryan says:

          i think it ridiculous to say LD at RM will limit our attack given the massive number of games he has played there for us and played there well. Dempsey has said a thousand times he prefers playing behind the striker as opposed to out wide.

          either way, JK has made it very clear he sees Dempsey in that withdrawn striker role.

      • Dudester says:

        +1 on everything except I think donovan plays wide left where hes also comfortable Zusi wide right and FJ at lb.Leaving Beasly on the bench.Think about who would you drop Zusi at RM or Beasley at LB?

        • KingGoogleyEye says:

          Dudester: “who would you drop Zusi at RM or Beasley at LB?”

          Excellent way to put it. I wrote a very long comment on this thread about that, but you put it succinctly.

          Unfortunately, I think JK goes with DMB at LB.

        • bryan says:

          i would drop Zusi at RM. i want Johnson at LM every game and i actually like Beasley at LB. but that’s just a personal thing, a solid argument for either option can be made.

          • KingGoogleyEye says:

            bryan: your comments are always so careful, so analytical, that it strikes me as very odd that you like Beasley at LB. I think we both agree that he 1) gets beat frequently, 2) gets tossed around easily, 3) recovers very quickly, and 4) provides occasional threatening runs down the flanks.

            3+4 are great, 1+2 are terrifying—and it surprises me that you would be so accepting of those terrifying aspects. Do you like him there because you think he’s just our best option (i.e., you wish there were someone else, but he’s our best for now), or because you think 1+2 don’t happen often enough to offset 3+4, or do you really think he’s just a solid LB on any team? If you could clone FabJo, would you still prefer DMB at LB?

            • bryan says:

              first, i appreciate it. i always enjoy having a conversation with you for the same reasons.

              i honestly have no logical reasoning for liking Beasley at LB now. Stockholm syndrome maybe? for the LONGEST time i was all about Beasley at LM and Johnson at LB given that is where they play for their clubs. but overtime i’ve reallllllllllllllllllllllly come to like Johnson at LM. in fact, maybe that’s what it is. it’s not that i like Beasley at LB, he’s just the next best thing.

              so, to answer your question, it’s probably the first scenario you wrote. i wish there was someone else, but right now there isn’t.

              and yes, if we clone Johnson, he’s playing LB and LM without a doubt!

        • joshw says:

          I like FJ at LW, but if I was going drop him to open a position for an attacking player, that player would be Johannsson and not Zusi. FJ to LB, Dempsey to LW, Johannsson in the hole behind Jozy and Donovan on the right.

          You’d really rather see this:


          than this:



          Again, I prefer FJ at LW. Either of the lineups above would be weaker defensive than a lineup with FJ on at LW.

          • Dudester says:

            When Bacon gets settled into the US program and gets a real shot at a starting spot this is what I would like to see

            I really dislike the idea of Clint on the wing.The older he’s gotten the more clear it is that he should play in the middle.Dont really know but Bacon can’t be any slower than Clint and at 23 his work rate has got to be higher which Clint’s never really was.

            • Josh says:

              Man, I think we’ve gotta see Aron start a game at FW before we determine whether he’s so good that we need to play him out of position. Plus, there’s not much tracking back in those players.

              • Dudester says:

                He should start some frinedlies at fwd.The only way he gets on the pitch with the A squad in a WCQ or Brazil for that matter is on the wing.Where he has played plenty of times before.Unless you would rather Dempsey on the wing or even on the bench.

    • louis z says:

      If you think Dempsey is better on the flanks, then you are not current with the times. Dempsey is way too slow to play there. In fact, he is already showing he is a bit too slow for the middle. See the Seattle-Portland game.

      • Scott e Dio93 says:

        The current Dempsey got too comfortable and lazy, Demspey just needs to ear pull from Klinsmann, Dempsey was a badass on flanks in the World Cup.

    • Gary Page says:

      Eddie Johnson has an excellent record in qualifiers. I think he comes up short against top teams like we will face in the WC.

  27. joshw says:

    Not what I would necessarily select, but this is what I expect to see (not really a 4-4-2, with Dempsey in the hole):


    FW: Altidore. Dempsey over Johannsson because it would upset the group to start Johannsson so soon.

    Wings: Fabian and Donovan ahead of Zusi. I think Klins is starting to believe that FJ needs to be closer to the goal. Easy to justify dropping Zusi because he is coming off an injury. Donovan has done enough to reclaim his starting position.

    CM: Jones-Bradley is the pairing, folks. Get used to it.

    Outside backs: If FJ is on the wing, Beasley is the LB. Cameron might pip Evans because we have more depth at CB and CM now and Cameron is starting at RB in the PL.

    CB: I think Gonzo needs to have a good game to stay ahead of Goodson. Interesting that Gonzo didn’t start the GC final. Besler is the most trusted at the moment.

    Keeper: Timmy.

    • Josh D says:

      I can see this too. Except I’d rather we play any other CB than Gonzo. I’d even be willing to test Brooks again to see if he can handle an away game (like Bosnia) but when it counts. However, Brooks hasn’t had a lot of playing time recently, so I can see him benched.

      I just don’t trust Gonzo anymore. Regardless of his DP status.

      • joshw says:

        yep, i’d personally select Besler-Goodson. Goodson looks a little quicker than Gonzo to me, scores more on set pieces and didn’t make that touch against Belgium.

        • ATX_Colin says:

          I agree, Gonzo scares the dickens out of me both with the ball at his feet and when he is marking in the back. Only looks dominant in air.

      • Dinho says:

        Josh, you and I agree on Omar. I just can’t buy into him with any confidence as a starting CB. I’d prefer Goodson, to be honest.

        • joshw says:

          Here’s what i’d pick:


          Dempsey doesn’t look sharp. Johannsson is on a scoring run.

          Parkhurst is the only right back available who is actually defender (admittedly a central defender). Cameron played everywhere for Houston, but a bunch of his time was in midfield. Chandler has been listed as a forward for his club. Evans is a midfielder. I was a midfielder when i played and the few times I had sub into the back line it was scary. I don’t know how these guys do it.

          We know we’re going to have an attacking player on the left, whether it’s Beasley, FJ or Castillo. Would it be too much to ask for an actual defender on the right? And don’t say Lichaj, unless he’s improved tremendously since his last US cap. Talk about jittery on the ball.

          • John says:

            The Johannsson scoring run ended and half of it was PKs anyway.

          • Quit whining about soccer in the US says:

            “Johannsson is on a scoring run”

            I like the kid, but please stop. When he scored huge amount of goals in England, and is on the verge of signing for $5 million a year, you can start.

            If you need help on the timing, let me know…..

            • joshw says:

              I agree. It’s crazy. And it’s not what I expect to see. But I think the team would play better with my line up as opposed to my prediction of who Klins will select.

              • Dudester says:

                If thats what you think go to US soccer house in Chicago and submit your resume for the USMNT head coaching job.You just might get it.

              • joshw says:

                Just because I think it’s the best lineup at the moment, doesn’t mean it’s what the coach should select. I trust that Klins will handle all of the intangibles on a level we can’t comprehend. That’s why he’s a “big coach”. I could even see him starting Donovan on the bench because this is his first game back with the full team. You’ve gotta be a big coach to pull that off.

            • Josh D says:

              He can only score what’s in front of him. Not his fault he’s in the Netherlands. And everyone else was congratulating Jozy on a record breaking season last year.

              I’m not on the fanboy Aron bandwagon yet, but I don’t belittle those who are. The kid has talent.

        • Quit whining about soccer in the US says:

          It is a shame on OG, he is so good almost all the time…..just those mistakes.

      • TC says:

        Agree. His passing is terrible. No matter how good he is in the air he is constantly giving long balls right back to the opponet. Brooks won’t get a start in these next two but I think he will be beside Besler in Brazil.

    • DC Josh says:

      I like the lineup, but Cameron’s recent appearance in central midfield plus Jones’ temperament issues has me wondering if Klinsmann doesn’t make a change there. Evans can fill in at right back.

      The front four is fantastic, although Eddie Johnson can fill in for Fabian as well. I agree about Fabian though, he needs to be closer to goal.

      You could also switch Donovan and Johnson so they would be inverted wingers, allowing more width with the outside backs overlapping.

      I can’t remember a deeper squad than the current pool. Next year’s world cup cut will be monumental.

  28. SoundersOff says:

    I still fully expect to lose in Costa Rica.

    A draw will be a nice surprise.

    • Francois says:

      Seriously? Even with the way the team is playing? Wow, pessimist I’m guessing.

      • SoundersOff says:

        Realist 😀

        We’ve NEVER won there. And for good reason. It has nothing to do with the quality of the soccer we’re playing. Maybe things chance now that they can’t use the concrete carpet known as Saprissa, but I am not holding out hope.

        Our achilles heel has always been the quality of the pitch, weather, local environment and major travel. Also the treatment by fans… aka people attacking the buses, driving around hotels making noise, etc.

        It’s funny because that type of behavior would be sanctioned pretty darn quickly in Europe… but alas. CONCACAF.

        • evan says:

          Which is why b/t that and the quality of play we need to move to conmebol. Im not sure the fans are any better there, but they can’t be worse, and the quality of play would certainly be better. Mexico and the US to conmebol. Make it happen USSF!

          • Jordan says:

            Na i like qualifying every cycle.

            • Drewbles says:

              Yep, you can pretty much guarantee that the US will make the World Cup every four years, which is just how ESPN (and now FOX), and in turn FIFA, like it.

        • Josh D says:

          “Our achilles heel has always been the quality of the pitch, weather, local environment and major travel.”

          All we faced and beat against Bosnia, and the same things we’ll face in Brazil next year. I think Klinsi has finally knocked out that “fear” of away games and the “excuses” of playing on poor pitches. I can’t recall him every blaming the field, but I may be mistaken.

          • SoundersOff says:

            Doubt we’d ever hear about it even if he did have an issue with it. But I do quite remember him speaking out about the conditions in Jamaica when we played during an actual tropical storm.

          • Drewbles says:

            “Our achilles heel has always been the quality of the pitch, weather, local environment and major travel.”

            “the same things we’ll face in Brazil next year. ”

            Pitch quality in Brazil for the World Cup should not be an issue. No stadium will host more than 6 games during the 1 month tournament and there is no reason that the pitches shouldn’t be international quality.

            The average high temp in June and July is in the 70s so unless unusual weather occurs, it shouldn’t be a factor. They will also arrive a week or two early to acclimatize.

            Local environment really shouldn’t be an issue for the US more than any other team. Sure Brazil fans are passionate, but I don’t think they are worried about the USA as far as serious competition goes.

            Major Travel isn’t really a factor because as previously stated they arrive in the country early and then only travel around the country every 4-5 days to play a match, which shouldn’t be different than how their club teams operate.

            So anyways no, they won’t be facing those problems in Brazil.

            • Josh D says:

              Due to Brazil’s size, teams will will face hot and cold temperatures, as well as, elevation problems. Depending on the draw and how they manage stadiums, we could see a lot weather variations.

              Brazil isn’t known for having the best pitches. While I’d assume they get fixed up for the World Cup, at the moment, a couple match the poorer Central American grass.

            • Jovins says:

              I was just in Brazil for all of June and July. In the south, the weather got below freezing, though most days it was in the 40s (Farenheit). It would go up to 80 for a couple hours though. In Rio, it was in the low 80s and high seventies. I didn’t go to the north, but it’s hot pretty much all year.

              • Drewbles says:

                Oh, I guess since you were in Brazil one time and kept a constant monitoring of the temperatures around the country every day we can just throw away decades of weather data. Good job man.

        • Socom 2 says:

          Costa rica has a state of the art stadium built and funded by the chinese.

          Costa rica wanted to play at the old stadium (in reaction to the snow game) but would cost them 100,000 to upgrade the lighting to FIFA standards.

          • SoundersOff says:

            I know.

            “Maybe things chance now that they can’t use the concrete carpet known as Saprissa, but I am not holding out hope.”

          • Dudester says:

            Just curious, why is it built and funded by the Chinese?

            • GW says:

              China is investing big in South and Central America. They need natural resources and the Chinese are outcompeting the Americans in that part of the world.

              But that should not surprise you.

              • Dudester says:

                Yeah China is trying to establish a middle class at the expense of environment.Not saying the US didnt have the same policy for over half a century but the numbers were considerably smaller.The Chinese are burnig the most harmful resource,coal,at 2500 metric tons a year while the US does 700 and are responsible for roughly a third of the c02 emissions on the planet.Amazing.

        • DYCSoccer17 says:

          You can’t really use the “we’ve never won there” argument any more. We’ve won for the first time in 4 different countries in the past year…Italy, Mexico, Jamaica, Bosnia.

          The main reason why we have struggled in Costa Rica is due to the fact that we always had to play in Saprissa. Now, we will be playing in the National Stadium, which is MUCH friendlier than Saprissa. Real grass. Track surrounding the pitch so fans aren’t on top of the players. Just my two cents.

        • TGA says:

          US wins easily….the Estadio Nacional is 2 years old….heck
          Miley Cyrus performed at the stadium on May 21, 2011…what more could we ask for…..

        • Gary Page says:

          You forgot officiating. It might be a bit better now, but only a bit.

        • GW says:

          “Our Achilles heel”???

          Don’t kid yourself.

          There are a lot of national teams who would have a hard time getting a result when playing a nasty rival, in their house, under the kind of conditions you will find in Saprissa.

    • Dinho says:

      I don’t disagree. Despite our form, it’s a different world in the Saprissa. A draw would be a win.

      Go USA!

      • bbstl says:

        We’re not playing at Saprissa, we’re playing at Estadio Nacional. I believe that Saprissa is under construction.

    • away goals says:

      I think we’re equally likely to draw as we are to lose. I think a win is the least likely outcome.

      The streak is fantastic and I love the way we’re playing, but we’re not going to win every game from now through July 13. Wins at costa rica and even home to mexico shouldn’t just be assumed.

      I am not looking forward to the reactions around here when we inevitably regress to the mean.

  29. Nate Dollars says:

    move cameron up to mid (bumping beckerman), and put orozco in the back, and we’ve got a deal.

    • Nate Dollars says:

      also, i don’t think this is the time to call lichaj in–that was, you know, almost any other time in the last two years. right now, you call in (recent) known quantities who can help us get the points.

      hopefully, we can see him in october, if we have games to burn.

      • SoundersOff says:

        You know that Lichaj was out injured when camp cupcake last happened, right?

        • Joe+G says:

          He was in England, so he wouldn’t have been called in for Camp Strudel anyway.

        • Nate Dollars says:

          lol, are you the same as the last guy? or was that sanfran?

          funny how the automatic response when someone suggests that lichaj should’ve been called in these past 2 years, is to point out the *one* time that lichaj couldn’t have been called up.

          • SoundersOff says:


            It’s a pretty standard response given what you said. You implied that it wasn’t the time to call him in now because these are important games.

            Well the only time we didn’t have important qualifiers recently would have been camp cupcake and those surrounding friendlies and Lichaj was out injured for a good chunk of time.

            It’s not an automatic response. It’s a direct response to exactly what you said and implied.

            • Nate Dollars says:

              just had a friendly in bosnia. we’ve also had lots of other friendlies. we’ve also had the gold cup. we’ve also had the preliminary quals for concacaf (where we had to start paco torres at left back).

              like i said, you (and others) pick out the one time that lichaj couldn’t have come, and hold it up like it’s some implication that klinsmann would just love to bring him in, but hasn’t gotten the chance.

              • SoundersOff says:

                Not really.

                I don’t believe Klinsmann thinks Lichaj is good enough to play for us.

                But if people insist on saying he should get a chance, I will point out that the time he realistically WOULD have gotten a chance he was injured.

              • Nate Dollars says:

                ‘I will point out that the time he realistically WOULD have gotten a chance he was injured.’

                no, you point out *one* time. another time would be, as i mentioned, when all but one of our outside backs were injured, and klinsmann still refused to call up lichaj–instead playing torres at left back.

                but of course, you wouldn’t mention that time, because then you might have to entertain the idea that klinsmann is wrong about lichaj.

          • Pirithous says:

            It is so obvious that SoundersOff is another name that Adrian (=SanFran, formerly ChiTown and a long list of other pseudonyms) is using that I am surprised you have to ask.

    • Socom 2 says:

      Actually replace cameron with beckerman and make room for castillo

      Im always 50/50 about castillo but he did well vs bosnia

    • jones says:

      Agree with Orozco in the mix. He was unlucky with the injury for the last game and I thought he deserved another call-up.

      JAB has great potential, but I don’t know if I consider him fully in the mix for a top spot just yet. Though I could see JK calling him in just for training to get more familiar with the squad. I strongly doubt he will become cap-tied in these qualifiers.

      • Ben James says:

        If we’re up by 2 goals at the end of a game, why not throw on Brooks to cap tie him and to protect and lead? I don’t think he should start either, but if we can even get him into camp for a WCQ, it’s a pretty definitive sign that he represents the USA going forward.

        • bryan says:

          i would bet my life that if JAB actually accepts a call up, JK will most definitely cap-tie him. i don’t think that is even a question. even if it is only for 1 minute. the german u-21 expressly stated he has no intentions of ever calling up JAB again. i understand that doesn’t really mean S, but i’m banking on JAB saying, “well then F you too my man.” plus, i have a hunch JAB really enjoyed his time with the USMNT.

          but that is my hopeful, biased opinion based on nothing more than quotes and USSF videos…

        • bryan says:

          in short, 100% agree.

    • Quit whining about soccer in the US says:

      I love Cameron and Bradley in the mid together.

  30. baconator says:

    bench dempsey

    • SoundersOff says:

      I agree with this.

      He should be benched because he is not fit. He could be a great super sub until his fitness and form returns.

      This is the new culture. If you aren’t fit and in form, regardless of the name on the jersey, you don’t play.

      I could also see Klinsmann starting him with the intention of pulling him at half or 60.

    • Quit whining about soccer in the US says:

      He was kidding, well he should have been anyway. Dempsey is fine and will be even finer in a couple of weeks.

  31. jack says:

    what about Castillo?

    • Josh D says:

      We finally have depth in LB with Castillo good enough to make the 23, but probably not going to. Although taking Donovan, Zusi, Corona, and Bedoya, all right wingers, seems excessive. All four have played out left before, but Donovan is the only one truly comfortable there. So we may see one of them dropped in favor of Castillo.

      I don’t think Zusi has played well recently. If someone drops it’ll be him for Castillo.

      • jack says:

        Both Castillo, Beasley and Fabian can play LB or left wing if need be. So I would bring all three.

        I would drop either Diskeruud or Corona from final roster.

      • ThatKidNandez says:

        Zusi brings nothing to the table. He stuns the attack when he’s on the field corona and bedoya have surpassed him their showings at the GC and club have made that clear. Castillo will make the lineup especially the form he’s ben in lately. Torres is another I see being called up he did well at Lm. Orozco is another who could be called up due to him being able to play rb and cb. Yedlin is someone who should be implemented into the US system now at gain experience! Agudelo is on the fringes at the moment could dislodge johnson if he keeps at it. Yarborough should get a call up and be cap tied he’s better than hamid and johnson. Rimando is a great keeper but we need to build the youth. Honestly Klinnsmann preaches then he should start showing ! I see klejstan, zusi and beckerman getting the axe.

        • ThatKidNandez says:

          Forgot to add Mix getting the axe

        • zztoppppp says:

          You’re joking right?

          • ThatKidNandez says:

            The Mids fine at the moment we need to focus on LM and RB. Mixx is a great player but he was easily taken off the ball in bosnia.

        • Dudester says:

          Every chance you have to rag on Zusi you take with two hands.Zusi may not be a world beater but he’s certainly better than you give him credit for.

        • away goals says:

          Those guys didn’t hurt their cause at the gold cup but nothing was “made clear” in that tournament except that donovan was better than anyone on the field.

          Remember how wondo was our 2nd best striker after his belize hat trick? Level of competition has to be taken into account.

          • ThatKidNandez says:

            I never believed the Wondo streak. Exactly level of comp. Bedoya playing like a boss in sweden and recently pulling an amazing shift against PSG that counts for something.i think the pecking order goes like this Donovan – Bedoya – Corona – Zusi -Gatt

  32. I think Ives has the right 24. I don’t see MOF getting the call over what we’ve got listed at defender. Trying to cut that list to 18 for the game day squad is a tough call though. Of that list, I could see Brooks, Goodson, Mixx (unfortunately), Beckerman, Coronoa, Rimando, but that would be tough on Brooks, given he seems to have made his decision. I just can’t see JK not having GCam on the game day squad or even starting. If he goes with Evans at RB, GCam is a valuable asset on the bench for cover at RB or LB or even at CDM if Jones gets frustrated late in the game. He’ll likely have DMB at LB and FJ at LM, with Omar and Besler starting at least this first game. MB and JJ in midfield tandem, and LD, JA and Demps as the 3 in a 4-3-3, which in short order will be morphed into a 4-4-2 with LD going forward, and Demps dropping wide and right.

    • Lost in Space says:

      If memory serves me….the rules have changed regarding number of players who can dress on game day. If I’m not mistaken the game-day roster doesn’t need to be cut down to 18 anymore. Meaning we can dress 23 players.

  33. Mike R says:

    Don’t play anyone with a yellow save them for Mex. would love to see them tie against Honduras and essentially knock them out of the Wc in Columbus

  34. Jim says:


  35. Strider257 says:

    People, don’t forget we have a LOT of yellow cards waiting to become a one-game suspension. We need to make sure we have additional cover for each of the 10? guys that could get a card in the first game and have to sit the second.

  36. Phil Narozanick says:

    Donovan-Dempsey-F. Johnson

    Lineup v. Costa Rica, you heard it from
    Me first fellas

  37. Darwin says:

    Welcome back Ives!

  38. biff says:

    My gut feeling is that we will not see John Anthony Brooks on this roster. Will be very surprised to see him on it.

    I think at least two of these guys will not get called in: Eddie Johnson, Joe Corona, Alejandro Bedoya, Sacha Kl*&%+!stan, Brad Evans.

    I think chances are high that we see Edgar Castillo, plus either Michael Orozco or Eric Lichaj.

    Whatever the case, there are going to be some good players left off this roster. As for Terrence Boyd, injury or not, I think he is done for the WC 2014 cycle. He is simply too far down the depth chart and will have to show significant improvement to even be considered for the WC 2018 cycle. There are young guys coming up who are likely to surpass him.

    • Dudester says:

      No way Evans doesn’t get called.Cameron is starting at RB for stoke and could prob beat him out but Evans is the starter as of right now.Agree regarding Boyd, he hasn’t played for the US in a while.

    • zztoppppp says:

      Evans will be there without a doubt and at this point I would be surprised if he isn’t on the roster for Brazil.

      I agree that Boyd shouldn’t get a world cup spot since he hasn’t looked good in the few appearances he got this year, but I think he is a strong candidate for 2018.

  39. Carlos M says:

    Panama and other teams called 24 – 26 players, even 27 players, so, this is my roster, with 25 players…

    Goalkeepers: Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, Nick Rimando.

    Defenders: Brad Evans, Geoff Cameron, Matt Besler, Omar Gonzalez, John Brooks, Clarence Goodson, Edgar Castillo, DaMarcus Beasley.

    Midfielders: Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Sacha Kljestan, Alejandro Bedoya, Graham Zusi, Fabian Johnson, Brad Davis, Landon Donovan, Mixx Diskerud, Kyle Beckerman.

    Forwards: Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Eddie Johnson, Aron Johannsson.

    If call a 26th player, could be Timothy Chandler or Eric Lichaj…

    In the mix: Danniel Williams (is of JK’s favorite players), Jonathan Spector, Joe Corona (does not start in Tijuana, and his play time, and quality to decrease), Jose Francisco Torres.

  40. Socom 2 says:

    Freddy Adu getting the start today for Bahia !

    • Nate Dollars says:

      adu time: 2 hou–wait, what?

    • SoundersOff says:


    • blokhin says:

      does he get called in? it’s such bad luck on his part to run into 8 or 9 different stubborn coaches who could not see his true talent or could not look past the fact that he’s American…. maybe now he gets his chance to start for USMNT

      • zztoppppp says:

        I would like to see Adu do well, but I don’t think that him starting one game for a team that has barely let him dress since he has gotten there will change Klinsmann’s view on him.

        Like I said, I would like to see him turn it around and be successful, but I think he is far from coming back into the USMNT picture.

      • Mueller says:

        I hope that is sarcasm.

      • Dudester says:

        If it was one or two coaches maybe I would say its bad luck.But as you said it’s 8-9 coaches that see the same thing.Hes doesn’t show his quality consistently enough and his work rate and stamina have always been lacking.

  41. AC says:

    Good squad if he chooses this. Agree with the no need to call in new players or experiment now. Lichaj will get his chance, just not qualifying is on the line right now. Luckily he’s young, if he continues to be consistent, etc., he’ll get his chance. Evans doing a good job. Too bad Cherundolo is injured because that would be a good selection problem to have. Even though Fabian is better at midfielder, he’s our top choice at right back, and I can see Donovan on the left.

    • AC says:

      Good gosh, I should proof read more….WHEN qualifying is on the line right now….Fabian top choice at LEFT back

  42. Natsalways says:

    Looking at that picture I can’t help but notice how much Jozy has grown up in the last couple of years. He looks as much like a linebacker down at the Packers training camp as he does a world-class striker. If he keeps that physical conditioning he is going to be an absolute beast for years.

    • Dudester says:

      Yeah he only “looks” like a world class stk.Not an actual one, at least not yet.

      • Gary Page says:

        You never know when a striker will have a break out season. In the 4 years at Tottenham before last year, Gareth Bale had a total of 19 goals in 105 appearances, with only 3 in 39 his first 2 years.

        • zztoppppp says:

          And he was playing fullback in his first season there,

        • Dudester says:

          This is true.Unlike your Mcbrides and Dempseys who could only get so far on determination and grit,Jozy has all the talent and tools to become a top player on the world stage.

      • Rags in DC says:

        If he was a European striker and led the Dutch league in scoring you’d call him world class. Stop with the American self loathing.

        • Dudester says:

          Wrong.First off Jozy didn’t lead the Eredivise in scoring,he came in second.The last two top scorers in Holland have been Bony and Bas Dost I don’t consider either to be world class.RVP Luis Suarez Zlatan Cavani those are world class stk’s.Jozy could very well get there in a couple years but he’s not there yet and it’s not because he’s American.

  43. joshw says:

    This is what I hope we have at the WC:

    GOALKEEPERS- Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, Nick Rimando

    DEFENDERS- Steve Cherundolo, Geoff Cameron, Matt Besler, John Brooks, Clarence Goodson, DaMarcus Beasley, Edgar Castillo

    MIDFIELDERS- Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Landon Donovan, Fabian Johnson, Alejandro Bedoya, Brek Shea, Danny Williams or Maurice Edu, 1 of these players: Zusi, Gomez, Gatt, and 1 of these players: Diskerud, Kljestan, Torres, Corona, Holden

    FORWARDS- Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Eddie Johnson, Aron Johannsson

    I think that’s 23 : )

    • Dudester says:

      Don’t think Williams or Edu will be called.Though their 8s not 6s I expect Klejstan Diskerud or Torres.

      • bryan says:

        Edu and Williams are both most certainly #6s. they are your typical defensive mids.

        Kljestan, Mix, and Torres are #8s.

      • joshw says:

        I think of them as 6’s. Good range and physicality. Either, like Cameron, could step in if Jones is unavailable. Good utility too. Edu has played CB; Williams has played RB. I’ve only named 7 defenders.

        • Dudester says:

          See my post above I was calling Williams and Edu 6s not the other three.Regarding Williams he’s not needed as Cameron can provide cover for both cdm and RB.

          • joshw says:

            But assume that Cherundolo is injured and you need Cameron to play RB. What do you do if Jones is suspended for the same match and you want to start another #6 in CM? I think I’d want to have either Edu or Williams for the job. If Williams is in the squad, you could also play him at RB and Cameron at CM.

            • bryan says:

              JK would give the job to Beckerman or Mix to pair with Bradley.

              Edu hasn’t played in forever and Williams is just getting a few minutes off the bench for a Championship team. JK rates Beckerman and Mix above them. Kljestan too. in fact, Kljestan came on for Jones last game, right?

              • joshw says:

                Yeah, I’m speaking to my hopes for the WC roster, not the CR qualifier. In my opinion, Beckerman just isn’t quick enough to apply any pressure on the ball at the intl level. You pair him with Bradley (who’s not the quickest either) and it could get ugly. Mix might do okay on defense, but he’s gonna get pushed off the ball. I like his game, but at this point in his career, he’s a situational sub for the full MNT. Sacha is kind of a hybrid of the two, but again I wouldn’t feel comfortable with him starting a match at the WC at CM. Mix and Sacha for me are kind of like Feilhaber was in the last tournament. They can bring something as a sub after the tempo slows down, but if either of them is starting the game at CM it’s liable to be a shit show.

              • joshw says:

                I’m getting moderated. He’re the clean version:

                Yeah, I’m speaking to my hopes for the WC roster, not the CR qualifier. In my opinion, Beckerman just isn’t quick enough to apply any pressure on the ball at the intl level. You pair him with Bradley (who’s not the quickest either) and it could get ugly. Mix might do okay on defense, but he’s gonna get pushed off the ball. I like his game, but at this point in his career, he’s a situational sub for the full MNT. Sacha is kind of a hybrid of the two, but again I wouldn’t feel comfortable with him starting a match at the WC at CM. Mix and Sacha for me are kind of like Feilhaber was in the last tournament. They can bring something as a sub after the tempo slows down, but if either of them is starting the game at CM it could be bad news.

              • bryan says:

                joshw – oh, for the WC, i also hope there is no Beckerman. and i would hope that Edu and/or Williams will have it together by then. but as of now, they are way deep.

            • Dudester says:

              If Cherundolo is injured wouldn’t Evans start at RB.As of now at least? Both Evans and Cameron can play RB and Cmid albeit Evans is not strictly a 6.Would you want a third guy to cover for two positions?

    • Mike O says:

      I unfortunately think that Holden will be lost for the WC. I don’t think he’ll be at 100% in time with the torn ACL.

      • joshw says:

        I think you’re probably right. Cherundolo and Herc need to get back soon too. I’d like to see Herc get back and challenge Johannsson for one of the striker seats.

      • Gary Page says:

        Do you have any info? ACL’s vary considerably in severity and recovery time. Rossi returned to playing and scored his first goal in something like 2 years last weekend. It’s still a long time until Brazil and I still hold out hope.

        • joshw says:

          I think it’s a combo of factors beyond just his physical recovery. He plays in a position where your speed of play needs to be the quickest – so recovering form after rehabbing the knee will take time. He got caught on the ball at the GC – so even if he hadn’t gotten hurt and started the season with Bolton, he’d probably still be getting up to speed right now and would be a long shot for the CR roster. Then you have to consider that once he does come back, he’s playing in the Championship, which isn’t the best preparation for a WC in my opinion.

    • zztoppppp says:

      How do you have Zusi listed as a decision between he Gatt and Gomez? Oh wait, let me guess. You think he is too slow and lacks any sort of creativity at the international level despite his last 5 showing for the USMNT?

      Aside from that in the midfield I would take Bradley, Jones, Donovan, F. Johnson, Bedoya, Shea, Zusi, Diskerud and Corona.

      I believe that Bedoya could potentially be a RB for the USMNT though if he keeps getting minutes at wingback for his club.

      • joshw says:

        I think Gomez is really competing with Johannsson and maybe EJ for a FW seat, but I do believe that we have a lot of options for wide midfielders. I selected Bedoya over Zusi – just personal preference. Shea I would definitely take because he is a great late, Ondonkor-type sub. Our attacking midfielders (Landon and Clint) can play wide. And forwards (EJ, Johannsson and Gomez) can play wide. So guys like Bedoya, Zusi, Gatt (and maybe Torres and Coronoa, though they play more inside) are going to be in fight to make the squad. That Torres has gotten minutes on the wing and at CM is something to keep in mind because you need utility in a 23-man roster.

      • ThatKidNandez says:

        Bedoya’s are Gregory Van Der Wiel

  44. RB says:

    Ives, can you or your writers clarify who’s right on this raging topic of Seattle AO and capos and so forth now being in charge of organizing the fans at all future USMNT matches? MLS and other sites reporting it, such as at link to mlssoccer.com, but AO online saying those reports are wrong…

    • Ryan S. says:

      AO asked chapter leaders to help them find capos for the game in Columbus and they did not get much of a response. They found 7 of the 14-16 they were looking for and TWO of them happened to be from Seattle. That is the only thing that spawned this story. Well, that and a few of the chapter leaders getting in a pissing match over it.

      • RB says:

        Problem is, though, that we don’t know what is the only thing that spawned this story. We don’t know who’s got the right info. That’s why I was asking if SBI could shed some light on it…

  45. John says:

    Shea getting the start for Stoke today. Will Klinsmann bring him in, just to come off the bench against Mexico?

  46. Bac says:

    Break Shea in the starting lineup for Stoke today….
    Guess he surprised everyone and healed quickly…

    Does he get called up?

    Ives, will you revise your list with this surprising news?

    • StevieBob says:

      Thats awesome. I’m guessing, with that news, that he makes the roster. But who does he replace? Tough choices ahead.

      • Josh D says:

        I wouldn’t jump the gun. He’s getting over a lengthy injury and hasn’t had a proper preseason. Who is he going to replace? Everyone is in fine form, playing week in and out. Unless he scores a hat trick then plays over the weekend, I don’t see him included over anyone on the projected lineup.

    • Gary Page says:

      That’s pretty amazing. Not just that he’s recovered so quickly, but that he is also starting. Mark Hughes must think highly of him.

      • Smacking says:

        It’s a Capital One Cup match against a League One side. Still encouraging to see him back in action and in a position to work his way up.

      • GW says:

        Have you seen Stoke play?

        If he is at his best, Shea will be very useful to Stoke.

  47. guanaco20 says:

    I thought John Brooks picked up a knock over the weekend with Hertha Berlin?

    • SoundersOff says:

      Opposite. He was pulled as a precaution because he’s getting over a knock.

      • Kevin_H says:

        Why did he even start, then?

      • MN Footie says:

        Well, not technically opposite. Opposite would be “JB didn’t pick up a knock” or “JB picked up no knocks” or, my personal favorite, “JB didn’t pick up no knocks with [whatever the opposite of Hertha Berlin is]”.

        But at this point, I’m just being an @sshole. Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

      • dikranovich says:

        wait, come again?

  48. Joamiq says:

    I thought Mix’s grade for the Bosnia game was too low. He wasn’t a 4.5. Should have been 5 or 5.5. He didn’t shine, but he wasn’t that bad either.

    Eddie Johnson cannot play a midfield role. You can line him up there, but that doesn’t mean that he can do it. That said, I think if Boyd were healthy we would likely see all five forwards get called in, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see that fivesome in Brazil.

  49. Dudester says:

    Between Brooks and Johnasson Brooks is the more likely to get the call.Its realistic to think that he is auditioning to beat out Gonzalez in the near future.Johnasson has to beat out Jozy or Clint which won’t happen anytime soon.

    • RNG says:

      Not at all. AJ is a replacement for Eddie Johnson if anything. And most likely he is a supersub off the bench.

      • Dudester says:

        Touché, when I think about it he might also have a chance to be a starter on the wing.The competiton there is Donovan Zusi and Shea.Could see him beating out Zusi and Shea.

      • Left Wing says:

        Does anyone else see the opportunity for AJ to start up top, and Dempsey and Landon on the wings.. with the three of them interchanging during the game looking for the best weakness to exploit?

        • Dudester says:

          Don’t think Deuce starts on the wing.He hasn’t played out wide for Klinsmann since forever.Klinsi like his wings to cover a lot of ground and get back and help the fullbacks.Two things Dempsey is not particularly good at.If AJ starts it will be on the wing me thinks,instead of the likes of Zusi Shea Corona Bedoya.With the form Donovan is in he locks down one of the wide spots.

          • louisz says:

            I think Bedoya will be starting as a RW.
            LD will take the left.
            Dempsey will probably start (Not my choice)
            AJ off the bench at halftime.

            • Dudester says:

              There’s no indication that Bedoya has surpassed Zusi at RM.Zusi has played in the WCQ’s while Bedoya has been on the bench or not even called.Bedoya started the Bosnia game and Zusi stayed home but that was a logistical issue.

            • bryan says:

              i just don’t see Zusi or Bedoya starting. i honestly think it’ll be Jozy/Dempsey up top in that usual withdrawn formation we always use.

              then LD on the right and FJ on the left. there is no way Jozy, Dempsey, LD, and FJ do not start this game and i don’t see JK messing with the formation.

              now, if JK plays this game with yellow cards in mind, i could see a few starters sitting.

              i guess we’ll find out soon enough…

              • Dudester says:

                It will come down to FJ on the left Beas at LB and Donovan on the right.Or FJ at LB Dono at LM and Zusi at RM.Im starting to think your right and JK will play Beas at LB considering last round of qualifiers.Curious is FJ and Beas on the left what you want to see or what JK will put out?

              • bryan says:

                Dudester – agreed, i think those are the two possibilities for the left side.

                personally, yes, i would want FJ at LM. it’s not that i think Beasley is a great LB, but i really think FJ brings it at LM.

                eventually i would hope Shea takes over and FJ goes back to LB, but i don’t see that happening for these games.

              • louis z says:

                so, which is it?
                I don’t think your line up will happen.
                LD will be coming from the bench, not because he is not the best but because JK is JK. If Zusi still not in form, Bedoya will be RW to start.

              • bryan says:

                louis – like i said, i believe it will be a 4-4-1-1 set up with Jozy up top, Dempsey floating behind him, LD at RM, FJ at LM, Bradley and JJ doing their #8 balancing act, with Beas, Besler, Omar, and Evans in the defense. with Howard, of course.

                i 100% disagree LD is on the bench. he is one of the only players without a yellow card in a game where yellow cards effect the mexico game. maybe he starts somewhere else if you are right about Zusi playing, but there is no way LD is not in the starting XI.

    • Tensnake says:

      We still need a 4th option, who does AJ have to beat for that spot? Agudelo? Wondo?

    • Bobb says:






      Odd men out of the starting lineup:

      Zusi (sorry but Donovan is 100x better for both the national team and in MLS)
      EJ (Johannsson is far more skilled and dynamic)

      • joshw says:

        You forgot:




        and that Fabian Johnson may be our starting LW.

      • Dudester says:

        I would take the third one.Dempsey is more effective in the middle and Johnasson and Lando quicker and more mobile than Clint out wide.

      • hartley says:

        I disagree. First, Donovan doesn’t provide very much air service. You would say goodbye to Jozy’s headed goals? Landon and Clint are playing the same spot these days. I only see them on the field at the same time if we switch formations or Dempsey pushes up once Jozy goes to the bench. Second, Clint doesn’t play the wing. Again, he provides less service — especially air service. And he doesn’t go deep enough defensively to make plays like Zusi did in Mexico. I like AJ, but lets see what kind of service he provides. I would stick with EJ or FJ out left with Zusi on the right.

        • Dudester says:

          Don’t know if your response is to my post but if so.Donovan does provide air service, his crossing has always been very good.Donovan started as second stk in the gold cup only because that was his best position on that squad and Dempsey wasn’t on it.With Dempsey on the team the best ace to put Donovan is on the wing.Im pretty sure Landon starts out wide vs Costa Rica and Clint behind Jozy.I didnt say Clint plays out wide where I agree with you about his limitations.In my mind Clint starts next or behind Jozy if you will Lando plays left wing and Zusi plays right.Unless of course Bacon eats him out for that spot but that is doubtful.Otherwise that’s my front four.

  50. Raymon says:

    Look, I love bacon as much as the next guy. I’m glad there’s gonna be lots of bacon in our future, cause bacon makes everything better. But with Brek healthy, and Brek’s history vs. Mex, I dont see how there’s room for Aron Bacon in this round. I say hold the bacon, until we are a shoe-in. Then he can wow us and earn his ticket to Brazil in games that are meaningless to us, but are still meaningful to the competition (i.e. the grind of the Hex, but irrelevant to our qualification).

    • Drewbles says:

      Because goals win games and Bacon is scoring goals, so we should count on Bacon to bring home the Bacon. Bacon?

      • brad says:

        I agree, Holding the bacon… (for the sake of holding the bacon) may be good for your Cholesterol, but it is bad of the US Mens National Team.

        I say More Bacon, More Sausage, More Brisket. Period.

        • Jody says:

          I would think that EJ would be first off the bench, anyway, so why not bring the Bacon? Esp considering he’s only been with the MNT once. With Boyd and Herc both injured, I’m not sure there’s another good candidate to bring, anyway.

        • Ross says:

          You forgot cowbell

    • ilikefreddyyesadu says:

      Bacon left off the roster? When pigs fly! Iceland hasn’t seen a scorer like this since Gunnar Stahl plus the Mighty US must fear that Wolf Stansson could seek revenge over a Bacon roster omission!

    • Josh D says:

      Brek only played 46 mins today. No way do we see him in two weeks.

      Did anyone watch the game? Was he subbed because of a poor performance, a la that Gold Cup game?

      • 2tone says:

        From what I understand Shea had a good 45 minutes today, and that Mark Hughes wants to play him this weekend hence why he only went 45 today.

    • GW says:


      Right now no one knows if Shea is healthy. He has yet to play a game for Stoke. Hughes recently said he is hoping Brek might get some time next week, maybe.
      Meanwhile, AJ is in good form, scoring for AZ.
      I’m a Shea fan but if he can’t play, it is next man up whether that is AJ or someone else.

    • louisz says:

      You are funny :-)

      Let’s see how funny JK can be.

  51. StevieBob says:

    Neither Guzan nor Howard are starting today. What’s up with that?

    • Drewbles says:

      It’s the early rounds of the league cup, usually a good chance to get the backups so time on the pitch, especially GKs as they’re hardly ever subbed on in a match.

  52. Bobb says:

    Doesn’t it matter that Joe Corona isn’t playing for Tijuana nearly as much or as well as Paul Arriola?

    • GW says:

      That is TJ. What assurances do you have that Arriola will play well with the US, a team Joe Benny has been playing very well for recently..

  53. Jody says:

    I can’t believe how many people are calling for Johannsson to start after only playing 30-40 min with the MNT. In a friendly. Esp since many of them are subbing him in for Dempsey. Our captain. One of our top 3 players. Insanity.

    • Mat says:

      The answer is simple: play AJ, Dempsey, Jozy and Landon. Something like:
      Evans (or Cameron), Besler, Gonzo(or Goodson or Brooks), Fabian
      Jones(or Cameron), Bradley
      Dempsey, Landon
      Jozy, Iceman Bacon

      If we play with those 4 players in the offensive sector, it would be a pretty technical and lethal combo. And our bench would be pretty legit as well.

      • Mat says:

        If I had to commit to a lineup, since I gave alternative options above it would be:
        Evans, Besler, Brooks, Fabian
        Cameron, Bradley
        Dempsey, Landon
        Jozy, Iceman Bacon

        Jones not playing too well right now. Never a big fan of Gonzo (blunder prone). Brooks can only be an improvement.

        • Dudester says:

          Switch Dempsey and Iceman.People seem to forget that since last year around the time of the Italy friendly Dempsey and Altidore have started up top in most if not every important game we have played.

          • Mat says:

            They are interchangeable, though I prefer the speed of AJ for the counter attacks we’ll probably get in Costa Rica. Just my own preference. But during the game they AJ and Deuce should switch every so often to keep the other defense off balance.
            The one thing is please play with 2 strikers and not the lone striker system, in which Jozy is much less efficient.

            • Dudester says:

              When are we gonna be good enough to dominate possession and control the game when we we play the likes of Costa Rica and Honduras away.Therefore not relying on the counter as you said.I think we’ve made enough progress under Klinsi that the time might be now.

    • Josh D says:

      The argument is that Dempsey has not performed well so far in MLS, is still in “preseason form”, and hasn’t played as much recently. So their logic is that Aron has scored 5 goals in 6 matches and is in red hot form. So their conclusion is that if Dempsey starts, he may not be ready to play a full 90 intensity, game influencing performance. Whereas, someone like Aron is and showed enough against Bosnia and so far this season to warrant an extended look.

      I want Dempsey to start because I think he’ll raise his game for the Nats. However, I don’t care if he’s subbed out around the 70th minute for a striker with speed and an ability to influence the game. That’s not a reflection on Dempsey as a player or his importance. It’s purely a reflection on his form at the moment.

      • Mat says:

        Talk of benching Deuce is utter nonsense. His recent contributions to the Nats are impeccable. People are pretty short sighted it seems.

        • Shawn says:

          When it comes to Deuce, I’m in the Lalas “Form is Fallacy” camp. You don’t bench Deuce on a hunch. He has to have fallen off the wagon hard to be dropped.

      • divers suck says:

        Important qualifiers is hardly the time for “looks”, Josh D. I’m all for giving Aron “looks” but not as a starter, yet.



        ——-Bradley—–Jones———————-(Bradley box to box)


        ————–Howard/Guzan——————-(either works for me)

        Sub in Aron Bacon for EJ (or whoever is out of gas) at 60 or 70 min and same for Beasley….

    • GW says:

      AJ has no card trouble.

    • Dudester says:

      +1 not at Johansson already starting but that he’s starting over Deuce.Dont forget that Aron can play on the wing as well.If he starts it will be out wide over the likes of Zusi Shea Corona Bedoya not to mention EJ.Lando takes the other wide spot.

    • Increase says:

      People are crazy…. I had an argument the other day with a guy who told me that The 2013 Ballon d’Or wasn’t for 2013.

      So ya people……

      • Dudester says:

        Technically he was right.The 2013 ballon d’or is not for the calendar year of 2013.Its for the season beginning in 2012 and ending in 2013.Thats the way I always interpreted anyways.

        • bryan says:

          exactly. this guy is mad at me because i explain how it works. i didn’t design it. i agree, calling it the “2013 Ballon d’Or” but basing it off of the 2012 season and awarding it in January 2014 is confusing.

          but to be fair to FIFA, the season does go from 2012-2013. so maybe they should just rename it the “2012-2013 Ballon d’Or”

      • bryan says:

        it was me and if you can’t understand that the award is handed out based on the “previous year” performance (source: FIFA), then i’m not sure what to tell you.

        your argument against it was if the 2012 Ballon d’Or was based on the 2012 year, why was it awarded in January 2013? i explained that part to you too.

    • TomG says:

      I can’t believe you can’t believe how reactionary the posters on soccer message boards are :-). That’s so sweet. Bobby Wood will score a bike this weekend and the entire site will explode with demands to call him up. It’s the nature of the beast.

      • Jody says:

        True. Guess I thought the guy who carried us through the first round and has developed a great raport with Jozy and is, um, the captain of the team might be immune. Nope.

        For the record, I was impressed by AJ’s 30 min of work vs Bosnia, and am glad he is doing well at AZ. I hope JK calls him in. But let’s let him prove himself before annointing him a starter (or even putting him ahead of EJ, a guy who just keeps scoring goals)

    • Mueller says:

      30 minutes on the road in Sarajevo seems tougher than 30 minutes on the road against Jamaica and 90 minutes at home against Panama. If everyone seems to think Cameron should start in the middle, I can’t see why Johannsson couldn’t start up top.

  54. AJ Striker says:

    Why must we start Jones? He’s been awful lately. In a 4-4-2, if JK keeps one defensive mid (bradley) and starts Cameron at RB, those two can share the responsibility somewhat. Plus it allows you to have Aron and Altidore up top, with Donovan, Dempsey, Johnson in the middle. It’s in the more reserved 4-2-3-1 that he keeps two (bradley & jones).

    • Dudester says:

      Jones is gonna start because he has seniority under Klinsmann.I might be wrong but Klinsi doesn’t have the b@lls to bench Jones.Dont believe the whole “every place is up for grabs no one is safe” bs.JJ has to completely fall off the wagon so to speak for Klinsi to bench him.

      • biff says:

        I have some definite major complaints about Klinsmann, but his treatment of JJ64YY-R is not one of them. Jones has earned his playing time and suffered knocks and bumps for the shirt and never turned down a call-up, such as at Mexico City in August 2012 for the historic win when Michael Bradley and a whole bunch of others called in sick. But I believe that if Jones loses form and would become a liability, Klinsmann will drop him like a ton of bricks.

        My hope is that Jones can regain his form because he is a tremendous player capable of being a major force for us next summer in Brazil.

    • biff says:

      I’m a big JJ64YY-R fan, and I think when he is in top form, as he has been much of the past 15 months during WCQs, he is one of the most important players on the team. But he has been bad so far this season, plus Klinsmann pulled him during the Bosnia game. My point is: I don’t think Jones starts against Costa Rica. That game is too important to lose with Mexico following. Costa Rica is going to be out for revenge big time and this will be a tough away Concacaf game.

      • Beto says:

        Agreed.. I dont see JJ playing in San Jose for the same reason. Cameron should get the start and Beckerman should play too. No need risking him in a game that will likely be a bunkerfest on both sides with a card happy ref.

    • bryan says:

      i don’t understand your logic when you say:

      “if JK keeps one defensive mid (bradley) and starts Cameron at RB, those two can share the responsibility somewhat.”

      what are you talking about? because Cameron is at RB he’s going to help play the #6 too? just because? that literally makes no sense. i understand you are basically saying you want to play a #10 and a #6 midfield combo, but i’m just failing to see why you think it’s ok to bench Jones simply because Cameron will be playing RB. as if that will really make a difference. they are not related topics. at RB, Cameron will have his own problems to deal with.

      not saying you are wrong for wanting Jones to start from the bench, but i don’t understand your connection to everything being ok if JK benches Jones since Cameron will be at RB.

  55. paulwp says:

    why is it 24 players instead of 23? I’d have to say, due to injuries, I agree 100% with this lineup. My only question is Kljestan. I could see any of 7 individuals from the pool filling that 24th spot. I could even see it going to a new guy JK wants to look at.

    • OSUExtemp says:

      A large number of players are carrying a yellow card. Pretty sure we have 9 players that could play meaningful minutes on a card, and could miss the Mexico match.

  56. paulwp says:

    Also, you know JK is going to announce the team on the night of 6 SEPT (after the game) or something. Probably the last beef I have with the guy is how late he announces his teams like they’re a state secret or something… though I guess if that’s my only beef we’re doing pretty darn good.

  57. Beto says:

    They should call up the capo jerks from ecs! Jk and throwing some fuel on the fire!..

    This 23 looks like the top 23.. Castillo over Sasha is the only change i can see but im not sold on him playing in either game. It will be interesting how Jurgen manages the yellow card situation. Id rather draw in CRC than lose Dempsey, Jozy, FJ or Bradley for Mexico!… Would i take a loss over losing any of them… idk

  58. Beto says:

    Anyone else think We could get a point with a non yellow carded lineup:
    Off the bench: mix, castillo/sasha, brooks
    If needed: bradley, dempsey, altidore

    *has a card, but wont get another! Could bring myself to writing another name here

  59. KingGoogleyEye says:

    Those shoes! Aaagh! it hurts my eyes. Looks like a Slurpee commercial.

    Can we please go back to cleats that look like leather? Black, white, dark blue. Brown or oxblood would look cool with certain kits. You want flair? try a nice wing-tipped version.

  60. Snack Time says:

    Check it out! Klinsmann must have found the cure for Jozyitis. This is the lowest I’ve seen him crouch for a team photo since the beginning of the Bradley era.

    • user222 says:

      LOL….. youre so right…

      I noticed him doing it for a couple years now
      The whole world knows the team photo is a tradition, so is the two line rows of players,
      the tallest at the back, the shortest completely crouching in front.

      just like with National Anthem, jozy doesnt respect enough to properly salute the flag.

      … what a lazy jozy arse player..

      • John says:

        If you’ve ever seen them do it, they literally spend about 2 seconds posing for it. Why everyone wants to read something into every time is pretty annoying.

      • Four Cents says:

        No- he’s still half squatin.. Just on the DL…

    • GW says:

      OMG. The next thing you know Jozy will be singing the national anthem.

      Then, the next thing is they will allow players from New Jersey to play for the US. I guess the USMNT is really desperate.

  61. Dudester says:

    If Beasley gets the start at LB and continues to get starts I hope it’s not an indication that JK thinks he’s good enough for Brazil.I hope he’s only using him there because he has yet to find someone adequate to play LM instead of Johnson.FJ is better player at LM than LB but is more valuable to the US playing the back.Same thing with Evans I believe and hope he’s a stop gap and that Dolo will come back strong, Chandler hits good form, Lichaj gets a chance or Cameron improves his offensive game as a RB.I think Cameron is better defensively than Evans but he’s less inclined to push up.

    • Nate says:

      why wouldnt beasleybe good enough for Brazil? even at LM, a position he plays regularly in Mexico?

      • Nate Dollars says:

        i think the dudester meant that he didn’t think beas was good enough for brasil at LB, not LM. and i agree with him.

  62. Dawwilly says:

    Klinsman has to get over the issues he has with Lichaj. Lichaj should be here as we need more depth at the LB and RB. Lichaj can play both, can get forward, and is playing steady minutes. Coach K has to be concerned about depth. Frankly, I would trade-off either Bedoya or Corona because Fabian can play out wide (even though I like both and think they a bring a lot). I think the USMNT plays with fire if it doesn’t get better depth at the back spots, particularly given Cherundolo’s knee issues. And that said I would let Chandler wander to far off in the forest despite his luke warm attitude.

    • GW says:

      “Klinsman has to get over the issues he has with Lichaj.”

      Why? Is Lichaj going to save the USMNT from the horrible tailspin it is in?

      • Nate Dollars says:

        you don’t bring in depth because you’re in a tailspin. you bring in depth so the tailspin doesn’t happen.

  63. Excellency says:

    I think he goes like this




    —————-howard (guzan, rimando)

    Castillo, Evans and Fabian can all play mid if needed

    • bottlcaps says:

      I really hope JK does not keep buying into a failed formation for the US of a 4-5-1 with Altidore at the top. Jozy Altidore does his best work when not posted up front alone. Pair him up top with Johansson or Dempsey, Johnson and now Donovan and get him the service he needs and he can be “the Beast” that Di Canio and the JK looks for to score goals.

  64. Dominic says:

    When will the roster be named and when does the camp start?

  65. Pingunça says:

    If Klinsi starts Baconboy I’m gonna spit take my beer.



    • jlm says:

      shouldn’t mexico be focused on honduras first? they really need the points…

      also, mexico has scored 3 goals in 6 wc qualifiers. you think they are going to score 3 in one game in Columbus?

  66. Dennis says:

    While neither Dempsey nor Donavon was called up for the Bo-Her game, I think it is really unlikely that JK would not start both of them. Similarly, Bradley, Altidore, Jones and FJ seem to be very likely starters. Backs Besler, Beasley, but the back line is probably the most uncertain . The midfield or forward spots will be determined based on whether JK really wants to attack, or to defend more, the choice between Jones, EJ, Zusi, Corona, Cameron, Beckerman will likely be determined by that as much as by what JK sees as the players’ relative strengths (and whether Cameron starts as a back).

  67. ThaDeuce says:

    Goodson not even called in!