Soccer Sunday: Your Running Commentary

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While Jozy Altidore and Sunderland will take the field for the first time this English Premier League season without Paolo Di Canio, Liverpool will welcome striker Luis Suarez back to league action Sunday.

Suarez will make his much-anticipated return to EPL play Sunday when Liverpool visit Sunderland, who recently fired polarizing manager Di Canio after a winless start to the Black Cats’ season. USMNT striker Jozy Altidore and Sunderland bounced back with a Capital One Cup victory earlier this week, and they will look for their first EPL win of the season against a Liverpool side that has struggled recently at the Stadium of Light.

The day’s action will start with the Derby della Mole in Italy. Defending Serie A champions Juventus are undefeated to start their quest for a league three-peat, but their first match of the season against city rivals Torino is expected to be a tougher challenge than ones in years past. Torino sit in eighth place with a 2-2-1 record, and they were seconds away from a win over Italian giants AC Milan earlier this season.

Soccer fans in the United States will want to keep an eye on Sunday afternoon’s Liga MX clash between Puebla and Club Tijuana. As many as seven Americans could be in action in that match between two Mexican sides desperate for three points. Puebla’s DeMarcus Beasley and Michael Orozco will welcome fellow countrymen Herculez Gomez, Joe Corona, Edgar Castillo, Greg Garza and Paul Arriola, who are coming off Thursday’s 6-0 CONCACAF Champions League victory over Victoria of Honduras.

If you will be watching today’s action, please feel free to share your thoughts, opinions and some play-by-play in the comments section below.

Enjoy the action (Today’s TV schedule is after the jump):

6:30am – beIN Sport – Torino vs Juventus

8:30am – NBC Sports Network – Stoke City vs Norwich City

9am – beIN Sport – Cagliari vs Internazionale

11am – NBC Sports Network – Sunderland vs Liverpool

11am – beIN Sport – Ajaccio vs Montpellier

1pm – ESPN Deportes – Puebla vs Tijuana

1pm – Univision – Toluca vs Atlante

2:45pm – beIN Sport – Roma vs Bologna

3pm – beIN Sport en Español – Real Betis vs Villarreal

3:30pm – NBC Sports Network – Portland Timbers vs Los Angeles Galaxy

6pm – UniMás – Guadalajara vs Atlas

8:30pm – MLS Direct Kick – Dallas FC vs Columbus Crew

9pm – ESPN – Seattle Sounders vs New York Red Bulls

11pm – UniMás – Chivas USA vs San Jose Earthquakes

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228 Responses to Soccer Sunday: Your Running Commentary

  1. Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

    The Turin Derby, as narrated by Ray Hudson. Genius

  2. Nate Dollars says:

    bleh. finally get a chance to watch bedoya, and he’s on the bench.

    assuming cameron will start, so i’ll get to see if he’s playing as well as biff has let on.

    • biff says:

      hey, Nate Dollars. I just turned on the Stoke game a few minutes ago to hear the announcers saying that Stoke has not looked good from the get-go. So how has Geoff looked?

      By the way, I have not been exaggerating Cameron’s recent performances. He has honest-to-gosh generally been playing RB very well. His touch seems to have improved significantly since last season.

      • Drewbles says:

        I have been a detractor for playing Cameron at RB for the USMNT, but I can’t argue that his recent form hasn’t been exemplary. He has to be one of the first names on the team sheet for Stoke, which is a drastic change from where he was last year.

        Geoff has looked good this game except for 1 or 2 times where he passed his teammates into trouble. Stoke still haven’t adjusted to Norwich’s pressure and it’s hurting them.

    • Increase says:

      I have been watching this game today. Geoff is doing well. I wouldn’t call it amazing but he had a really good cross a bit ago and the striker fell down for some reason…. I couldn’t tell quite why.

  3. Jacknut says:

    Does beIn have an app that shows games like NBC or ESPN?

    • Jacknut says:

      Apparently not, judging by the reviews on the App Store. Time to work some programmers to death, sheikh Tamim!

    • bryan says:

      link to

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  4. Clyde Frog says:

    Bedoya subbed in due to injury about half way through thr first half.

  5. Clyde Frog says:

    Nantes counter. Bedoya with a shot from just outside the area, right side. Goes way over for a goal kick.

    Rennes 0-2 Nante

  6. Matt says:

    FYI: The Timbers/Galaxy game is on NBC (the main station), not NBCSN.

    • Quit whining about soccer in the US says:

      Shame the Sounder’s game is not on the NBC network too.
      We will have to listen to ESPN pontificate on “where MLS needs to go, what MLS needs to do, etc”, rather than just enjoy a great soccer game.

  7. Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Plotinus says:

    Holy Shi*. Florian Kringe with a goal in 86′ min. to put St. Pauli up 2-1 versus Morales and Ingolstadt, after a drawn and missed penalty.

    And we get the win and as of now are no. 4

    Morales came in the game in the 38th minute and played centrally.

  8. Clyde Frog says:

    Arrgh, Bedoya was racing towards goal alone calling for the ball, the pass was maybe a little late, Bedoya’s first touch not quite perfect and the keeper swallows it up as Bedoya tried to round the keeper. That was a chance.

  9. petedx says:

    Looks like Jermaine Jones is going to be out for some time with meniscus surgery. With Bradley coming back from an injury, could be an interesting midfield for the next qualifiers. Beckerman and Geoff?

  10. Tensnake says:

    Schalke have suspended Jermaine Jones for their next game against Basel for “Poor Play”. Don’t blame them, he’s been horrible lately.

  11. Clyde Frog says:

    Whoops. Only half saw Nantes’ last goal. The pass from Nantes’ half to the goal scorer came from Bedoya’s general area. Maybe it was him with the assist? Not sure. In any case, Nantes win, 1-3.

  12. SBI TroII says:

    Lets go Josmer, take a bite outta tge ‘Pool defense.

  13. sly says:

    I hope Jozy does well every game but today… Liverpool wins ties for second keep winning and face arsenal in 3 weeks the real test.

  14. TomG says:

    jozy’s distribution very sharp today. Cats look much more lively and more ideas in the final third. Cattermole giving them some bite in complement to Ki’s composure.

  15. biff says:

    Jozy looking excellent in the first 15 minutes, and Sunderland playing well with heart and actually looks like a strategy now. Maybe this interim coach is the man to keep for the job permanently.

  16. Mike E. says:

    I am logging on to simply state that Adam Johnson is a cancer. He could be more selfish than Sturridge. Quit killing great build ups.

  17. TomG says:

    I don’t like the Cats composure in the final third so far. Lots of hopeful long range shots from bad angles instead of making a pass.

  18. Tony in Quakeland says:

    Sunderland looks surprisingly lively. Jozy has been good. He’s team mates are not quite on the same page with him, however.

  19. TomG says:

    Nice win by Jozy there.

  20. TomG says:

    Typical Sunderland. Playing well and gives up the goal against the run of play on the set piece. May have been Jozy’s man on the goal there.

  21. Ted in MN says:

    Jozy’s ballwatching on the goal

  22. Tony in Quakeland says:

    You can say that was against the run of play….

  23. Mike E. says:

    Ummm he just hit that in with his arm.

    That’s a hand ball and a yellow point blank.

  24. TomG says:

    Nice job winning the corner by Jozy, but terrible corner by Johnson.

  25. Citronomics says:

    Sturridge! Red Dragons needed that after Sunderland had been looking lively for a spell.

  26. Mike E. says:


    Howard Webb is a fool! This is awful, awful refereeing.

  27. TomG says:

    Jozy’s impriving a bit with his head. Good win and distribution there.

  28. gabe says:

    The myth that Adam Johnson is a good player needs to be eradicated. I am on a crusade.

  29. CroCajun1003 says:

    Wish they could find a way to get Jozy facing goal

  30. TomG says:

    Sunderland’s back line is just so bad. How do you not bother marking Suarez on that play?

  31. Citronomics says:

    Terrific combination play from Sturridge and Suarez for Luis’ tap in. Gerrard can still whip those long diagonal balls to ignite positive sequences.

    • TomG says:

      I don’t know. To me, O’Shea simply drifted off of Suarez and gifted the goal. He had the mark and just inexplicably decided to let it go. Far too easy, IMO.

  32. TomG says:

    Another overly optimistic ball from Johnson. Just terrible.

    • Citronomics says:

      How many times in this thread have folks called out Johnson for selfish or poor wing play… Why Sunderland let Sessengnon go is beyond me as Jozy is either left isolated up top or not included in any sort of combination play in the final third. Too many wasted crosses or distance shots that don’t bother the keeper.

  33. ATX_Colin says:

    This is gonna be a long frustrating year for Jozy. This team is BAD, you can see their confidence in each other deteriorate as the the games and seasons progress. A new coach could help the situation but more likely it will be a struggle all year.

    • ChiPersianFlip says:

      Jozy made an foolish decision to go there. Hull all over again. He will likely be benched by January or maybe sooner. Ives should comment on his decision.

      • Increase says:

        Benched for who? The injured guy?

        Honestly, AZ would win more games. Because they would actually score, they would give up tons of goals but they would score.

      • Michael Stypulkoski says:

        Why exactly would he be benched? He’s playing well, given the circumstances.

      • beachbum says:

        foolish to go get paid? please dude

        Sunderland playing the best they’ve played yet this year seems to me, and Jozy playing pretty well. Larsson? not so much

        • ChiPersianFlip says:

          It was foolish for several reasons:

          1) Strikers are ultimately paid to put ball in the goal.
          In 6 league games Jozy has none so far

          2) His team will likely be regulated fodder this season. Assuming they drop, what happens next?

          3) He chose a team with no midfield just like in the Hull case

          • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

            I think he’ll live and the Nats will do fine. Sunderland might come out alright in the end as we’ll, lol

          • beachbum says:

            exactly where should he have gone to get paid? who was it going after him to pay him? maybe you are independently wealthy so do not have to think about those things

  34. ChiPersianFlip says:

    Jozy should have never signed with that team. What a snafu. He’ll be either playing back in Holland or in the MLS w/n 2 years.

  35. TomG says:

    Another poor giveway by Larsson. Sunderland’s wing play is just awful. They just want to blindly kick the ball at goal instead of working a play. There’s a huge disconnect between the style played down the spine versus on the wings.

  36. Mike E. says:

    Howard Webb is not being fair or balanced in his refereeing. If I am Jozy I ask for a transfer. Either Webb is incompetent or there is a true anti American bias.

    Because this is absurd.

    And really? Adam Johnson gets a turnover and decided to shoot from the corner of the 18 again instead of looking for an open player? Announcer says what a great shot it was.

    Um hello he missed everything.

    • John says:

      Ki has taken at least a couple 30 yard shots that have just rolled out as well. Really disappointing decisions in the final third from some players.

    • Increase says:

      I really don’t know what Johnson was doing. He was completely open and didn’t even get it on target. He didn’t even think about a pass. Larson is taking long shots all the time too.

      I think the worst part is their inability to counter.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

      It was a good shot. From what I saw, unless there was someone on the other side of the pitch he could of crossed it to, no one was open and he clear of any pressure to take a shot at goal from a decent angle. Besides Gardner’s clear cut miss and Larson’s free kick it was Sunderland’s best look

  37. Mike E. says:

    You can see that Jozy is playing on a higher footballing level than the rest of these bums.

    He is smart in his movement into space and looking for creating it for others.

    He is frankly their best player and is creating so much space for other players who then decide to just go alone from irresponsible distances.

    That is on the coaching staff. But then again this is why the EPL is falling quickly on the international scale.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

      I disagree. He does well chasing down the ball, holding it up and laying it off. But isn’t taking by the scruff enough, at least not in the first. Like in my above post, it’s really everyone. No one knows what anyone is going to do in the end

      • Citronomics says:

        In the spirit of discussion here, its reasonable to assertbthat Jozy’s teammates most of the time are not looking for him, playing him into advantageous positions. It’s not just that Sunderland attackers are confused about where each other will be.


        • beachbum says:


        • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

          Agreed. But I don’t think it’s simply because they don’t want to, and their glory mongering, selfish, pri*ks. I think they genuinely don’t what the other is going to do, so rather then play a ball into empty space, essentially for Liverpool, they’d try and take it one themselves and go for what they see as something definite.

          • Citronomics says:

            The team I root for has the pr*ck in one mr. Bitey mcbitey. I’m not suggesting Sunderland players are deliberately not getting Jozy involved. They are clearly wasting crosses and not playing in Jozy after he’s held up play… poorly taken shots from distance, no one running into space for combination play with the center forward… And these players are practicing with each other day in and day out. So, simply don’t buy the line of reasoning that Sunderland’s woes are *primarily* due to lack of familiarity.

            This said, surely we’ll continue debating this until Sunderland show improved play that is sustained.

            Cheers guy

            • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:


            • GW says:

              “these players are practicing with each other day in and day out. So, simply don’t buy the line of reasoning that Sunderland’s woes are *primarily* due to lack of familiarity.”

              Practice? Are we talking about practice?
              It’s not the same as games.

    • jones says:

      I also disagree. He’s reverting back to the way he played for the US for that long goalless stretch. You can tell he is frustrated and losing confidence, and at times not moving around enough. I just hope it doesn’t go on too long or this move/season could result in his benching for the US.

  38. Dimidri says:

    I know this is hard for a lot of people to accept, but, if you want the US to do great at the World Cup, not just ok/good, guess what, we’re going to have games where Jozy will get similar service to what he is getting at Sunderland. Sure, I have no doubts Bradley/Donovan are better playmakers, but him learning how to make do with limited service won”t hurt us against Spain, Holland, Brazil, Argentina, etc.

    Stop with the Hull comparisons-a) he was younger and less mature, b) he was brought in on a huge transfer, c) he’s playing well, nobody’s scoring. Highly doubt he will be benched.

    And to those who said this was a mistake, where do you want him to go? Half of you said everything he did at AZ was illusory and the product of bad Dutch defenses, and, it’s not like that many teams in a better situation were clamoring for him. Let him play the October MNT games, I have a feeling he’ll play just as good as he was before.

    • Increase says:

      I just think a semi competent team would have been fine. I’m talking teams like Norwich/WestBrom or if Germany Bremen/Mainz. Nothing special just boring competence.

      • Dimidri says:

        I don’t disagree, I just don’t know if any of those teams wanted him at the price AZ wanted to sell at-and despite how easy it is to see now, going into the season I think it was somewhat reasonable to expect Sunderland to be Ok-ish. They did quite well under Di Canio to avoid relegation (including a 3-0 win against rivals Newcastle), they got a bunch of new people including an Italian international from Juventus, etc.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

      Your right. But the thing with the Nats is that there’s familiarity between the players, unlike this Sunderland side, so they’ll all have a better idea as to what each wants from one another on the field

    • QukerOtis says:

      Sure, Jozy has to make *due*, maintain his professionalism and all that. And good on him for trying to push himself in the Prem.

      But one point in 5 games? I don’t think the Hull comparisons are that far off. This midfield is crap, and the defense leaks goals. PDC was an absolute joke. Jozy would likelt have 8-10 goals f he stayed at AZ, and he’d be gelling with Johanson instead of Giaccherini. Could it still work out? Sure. As I type, he smacks one right at Mignolet.

      • Dimidri says:

        My bad on make due.

        It was time for him to move on. He had accomplished everything he could and needed to test himself at the next level. He could also have 19 goals in MLS right now, that’s not a reason for him to go there.

        At the end of the day, as long as he’s playing well, the fact his teammates aren’t the best should have little bearing on his USMNT performances. This is the guy who as an 18-year old was scoring on Spain despite not playing with his club.

  39. Mike E. says:


    Adam Johnson shoots from 25 yards again and missed everything.

    And ki follows it up with another ridiculous long range shot that is spilled by some even worse goalkeeping.

  40. Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

    Larsson hasn’t been the greatest on the wing, but the clear problem is the lack of familiarity between everyone in the attack. No one knows what anyone’s final choice is in the pass or what their runs are going to be, so the result is an errant pass or a hopeful cross.

    Individually their doing well, besides the shots from distance, but they just are too hesitant to make a decisive move with or without the ball, because everyone is just so unpredictable to each other and their all left pointing fingers

    • CroCajun1003 says:

      Well said. A bunch of talented individuals not playing as a team

      • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

        That’s really all it is. Give them time.

        Hell they’ll probably loose this game, but what they have going for them is faith in their manager and some talented players that only need more practice time with each other.

    • beachbum says:

      to me the midfield simply doesn’t look for each other…long shots fired aimlessly, runs that do not get service, and hold up play with no one to distribute to because the midfield is watching not running. Maybe that is unfamiliarity, but 5 games in that does not compute to me. Johnson and Larrson must do better, pretty clear it seems, and if they do, Sunderland can score

      • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

        But you have to understand this is the first time these particular players have all had the same run out together by a new manager with new tactics.

        • beachbum says:

          I do understand and stick by what I said above

          • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

            This team before the sub had never been on the field at the same time! Amazing. Before today, Ki had only played in two games, Larson in three, Gardner in Two, Catermole in 1 as a sub, and this is Cuellar’s first. Only Johnson, Colbeck and Celustka, who just came in, had started and played all five previous games. Every game played has featured complete different lineups.

            It’s just ridiculous to suggest that there’s no excuse for a bad play after only five games

  41. Mike E. says:

    Where was Larrson going with that? another really bad turnover.

  42. Mike E. says:

    Dammit Larrson!!!

    Jozy sets the attack up again and Larrson jut passes it backward to nobody.

  43. Jeter says:

    From what I see Sunderland’s defense is struggling and Jozy isn’t getting good service.

  44. Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

    There we go. Not so grim anymore is it. Their just confused with one another, but the foundation is there. Jesus already calling for transfers

    • Mike E. says:


      They just fired their coach its been so bad. Don’t come on here and act like you’re a purveyor of calmness. Sunderland have 1 point so far on the season. 1.

      • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

        Why? I know what these comment boxes are like. You’d think it was the end of times based on how bipolar things are when there’s a very reasonable, objective explanation for the state of most things.

        I mean look at you. Lol, your condemning me for not loosing my mind.

        Ok Di Canio sucked. Fine. The players have said they liked this manager. This is the first time I’ve seen most of these players lined up with one another; the new transfers or more technical players capable of providing service. So it’s a new start, not a continuation of disaster in a young, young season

  45. Darwin says:

    Altidore’s shot in the 63rd minute is proof that he knows that the only way to get a shot off in this team is to be more selfish.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

      And with the way things are now he’ll have to be.

    • Increase says:

      Now this I agree about. Everyone else keeps taking half chances, he will have to take them too. Sadly, I think this means his overall play will get worse.

  46. Mike E. says:

    Wait Howard Webb, so pulling a shirt is a foul for Sturridge?

    Surely you are going to go back and give Jozy about 10 retroactive foul calls because twice that mug contact happened to him a dozen times.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

      To be fair a lot weren’t clear cut and I say only two instances were clear fouls

  47. SBB says:

    Now that Messi is injured Jozy should go to Barcelona.

  48. Mike E. says:

    Jozy fouled again and no call.

  49. away goals says:

    mike e you realize you’re watching sunderland here right? At their best they’re a bottom half team. Not sure why you’re so appalled that they aren’t playing flawless attacking football.

    • MidWest Ref says:

      not sure what your position is. Mike e is rooting for Jozy as an America player to play well and lead his poor team. The ref is letting Liverpool beat him up. I don’t think Mike is saying Sunderland will compete for a European spot; he wants S-land to do good because Jozy is on the team.

      Keep it up Mike e

  50. John says:

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Suarez with two pretty simple goals.

  51. USMNT Fan says:

    Sunderland forwards have no service from the midfield. That is the issue and a change of manager cannot change that.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

      He can instill chemistry. I doubt these players aren’t where they are today if they couldn’t make an assist.

      • USMNT Fan says:

        Chemistry can only go so far when competing with greater talent.

        • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

          But they do have credible, talented players. They just need to adjust to a post Di Canio hangover

  52. The Real Madrid says:

    Their crossing into the box has got to be the worst in the league.

  53. MidWest Ref says:

    That was just a great counter by Liverpool.
    Liverpool’s keeper has been solid in his box. Sunderland attackers are running far post for every cross and corner and he just grabs it without pressure.

  54. Francois says:

    Adam Johnson is horrible. He can’t cross to save his life, Jozy has been starved for service for another week. He’s doing everything to make this attack go, but he’s getting no support, and there’s nobody looking to play the ball on the ground or work combinations. Everybody wants to shot from 30 yards out instead of looking to break a team down.

  55. biff says:

    Well, Sunderland can be proud of the effort put out against an very good Liverpool that also got the benefit of Howard Webb allowing Liverpool defenders to get away with moider. Jozy is without a doubt one of the top players on the team, but seems like his teammates are not focusing on him enough. Going forward, the coach is going to have to demand that Jozy be made the focal point of the attack, that he is the go-to-man.

    I don’t know this Sunderland team very well, but my impression is that there are really no leaders out on the field and the guys are afraid to assert themselves, like when Sturridge hand-balled his goal, nobody protested.

    • beachbum says:

      good post biff, I noticed that on Sturridge’s goal too

      • GW says:

        Well you should have, The commentators went on and on about it as soon as it happened.
        In the post game interview Sturridge confirmed it was an “accidental” handball.

    • Darwin says:

      Not sure I agree with Jozy being the focal point. It has to be Giaccherini. He has two goals already and was hands-down Cats best player today. Ball needs to get him to be an Adam Maher type to play along with Jozy.

    • Citronomics says:

      Don’t you mean when Sturridge “shouldered” in his goal? :-)

      • biff says:

        Good point, Citronomics. That second announcer, Graham Whoever, was a bona fide idi—, well guess I shouldn’t say it. And his explanation when the first announcer asked whether it wasn’t a foul when Toure held down Jozy at the top of the box made absolutely no sense, something to the effect: Well, Toure when the ball was coming sort of used Jozy to get high. Full Stop. And the first announcer was silent. You could tell Announcer Two was a Liverpool man and very much subjective. I like Liverpool also, but not when they are playing against Jozy.

  56. ChiPersianFlip says:

    HULL Jozy Watch 2013-2014

    Jozy Altidore after 6 games: 0 goals

    Ives predicted 11-15 goals

  57. Kingsly Alexander - Sankt Pauli - Platonias says:

    Altidore should have done more really. He should of realized that Webb wasn’t going to give him anything today, yet he still wanted the calls when he knew they weren’t going to come.

    Instead of trying to point on how he was being fouled, even if they technically were, I think he should of abandoned any hope of trying to draw fouls and fought through everything as hard as possible.

    The service was bad, because this isn’t yet a team. Until their a team it’ll be more of the same.

    • Mike E. says:

      He did fight through everything. He was extremely physical constantly.

    • Darwin says:

      still, you could see him getting frustrated and being lax on some plays.

      • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

        Exactly Darwin and that’s what I’m referring to. Not to say he wasn’t extremely physical. He was. But he should of understand he wasn’t going to get any sort of call his way unless it wasn’t open to interpretation.

        Webb set the precedent for what he was going give Jozy quite early and instead of becoming frustrated and expecting a call, he should of fought through every play until he heard the whistle, wether it was on his count or there’s

  58. MikeG says:

    Long year for Jozy. His stats will be way down, but hopefully he continues to shine for the USMNT.

    • MikeG says:

      He just does not have the midfield or team in support. Relegation. Hopefully Jozy has a relegation clause in his contract. If not then a double stupid move my Jozy. Some players need career counseling on the USMNT

    • Darwin says:

      Long year for us fans having to watch garbage as well.

      • John says:

        They did look much better then had the last few matches at least. Just some of the decision making in the final third really needs to be worked out. However at least they weren’t just turning it over in the midfield every time they touched it like before.

  59. Mike E. says:

    If you’re the coach how do you not tell your players to stop blowing build ups with ridiculous shots. I mean come on is English coaching really this bad?

    Can you imagine someone like Wenger or SAF allowing that nonsense? I’ve seen SAF yell at Rooney for taking even one poor shot.

    There is no coaching discipline in some of these teams. Might as well bench the greatest media creation since Andy Carrol–Adam Johson. Because its pretty clear he only wants his.

    • MikeG says:

      At the youth level all shots should be shot is a bad the professional level a bit of discretion is the norm.

    • Increase says:

      A lot of the best British coaches/manager are Scottish. I can’t think of one English coach who is actually considered good. So even the guys who are actually from the same Island are not English.

      Sam Allardyce
      Alan Pardew
      Steve Bruce
      Chris Hughton
      Ian Holloway

      Sam Allardyce is considered competent(I think) but is mocked constantly.
      Can I say Harry Redknapp as he is in the Championship soo….. yeah…

      • GW says:


        I’m not sure what you mean by your list but all the guys on it are English except for Houghton who played for the Republic of Ireland.

        • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

          Sir Bobby Robinson, Roy Hodgson, Kevin Keegan, Glenn Hoddle, Sam Allardyce, Harry Redknapp, Alan Curbishley and Steve Bruce are all at the least competent.

    • GW says:

      I had zero problem with Johnson shooting.

      I had a problem with the quality of his shooting. And his crosses.

      Nothing on target so therefore no chance of scoring and, almost as bad, no chance of rebounds.

  60. Darwin says:

    It’s a pathetic year, and the future looks bleak. I’m sure it will pick up for Jozy, Brek, and Edu. Cameron is playing well, and Guzan is bossing it. but…

    Christ, we’re saving our weekends to watch Stoke, Sunderland, and Villa. If those weren’t almost the bottom three last year, they surely will be this year. Here’s to some yank popping up on a team that is actually fun to watch. Hell, send them to Swansea.

    • MikeG says:

      MLS has a lot of parity. Therefore most MLS teams can beat Sunderland. Sunderland looks like Chivas USA

    • gtv says:


    • Air Jordanz says:

      To be fair, Villa’s not so bad this year.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

      It’ll pick up for Brek and Edu if they can get a loan out, otherwise I don’t see it. Maybe Brek, maybe.

      Guzman is in top form and hasn’t missed a beat since last season. I would consider Cameron and Altidore to be playing well, despite their teams success or lack of.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

      AJ will probably be in the EPL as soon as this January, so that maybe that’ll raise spirits.

      We’re hearing Celtic now, but I think we all know by the time transfer season comes around, we’ll be hearing a lot more about potential suitors. Icelanders always have a penchant for landing in the U.K. I guess because their proximity, even though I know AJ will be a globally known commodity.

      My guess is he ends up their anyways. He’ll have his options but I think english the second most spoken language for Icelanders, as is the case for all other Scandinavians

  61. Ld says:

    Jozy is not good at putting the ball in the back of the net. He is only good at holdup play. At least this blog is good for a laugh. You’ve got people on here claiming an anti American bias and the impending fall of the premier league on the global stage and all sunderlands players being amateur level because the one great American hope couldn’t score in a brothel. Haha!

    • Darwin says:

      “impending fall of the premier league on the global stage”

      Who on Earth was saying that? Here FYP.

      “impending fall of [Sunderland] from the premier league”

      I think that is what people are talking about.

    • Jamie Z. says:

      Hooray! It’s Hyperbole Day!

    • jones says:

      “Jozy is not good at putting the ball in the back of the net. He is only good at holdup play.”

      wow, you must not not be very familiar with the game…

    • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

      And we’ll never from you again to face your criticism, as if you’d never seen it, haha!

      • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

        *never hear from you again…

        • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

          According to the Guardian, the only person with an assist this season is Emanuele Giaccherini, with 1. I also liked the way he looked out there when behind Alti. Mavrias looked good out there, so between Borini, Johnson and Larsson and evidently Gardner and Colbeck, who seem like more traditional outside mids (but what they as long as they can retain possession, play a decent ball and put in a good cross), they should be anle figure something

          It’s apparent though that in order for Sunderland to have success for the rest of the first part of the season, Giaccherini and Altidore need to form a good understanding with one another. Maybe adopt a pure 4-4-1-1. You don’t have to invent the wheel to have any semblance of success. Just look at Tony Pulis’ stoke side last season as example.

      • Ld says:

        As hard as it may be for u to admit, Jozy is just not a goal scorer at this level. The premier league is a step too far for him. He should have stayed in the Netherlands where even crappy players score alot

        • JeffP says:

          It’s often not the level, but rather the system that doesn’t fit the striker. Jozy has a lot of talent. If he can’t score at the top level, how do you explain his international goals against Brazil, Germany, Spain and other top teams? He may get going soon, but it must be said that no one at Sunderland is scoring goals in heaps.

        • thegazelle says:

          Yeah, like that crappy Suarez guy

    • Nate Dollars says:

      ‘Jozy is not good at putting the ball in the back of the net. He is only good at holdup play.’

      ha, this comment is so @ss-backwards. it’s funny when it’s so obvious that the critic has never seen the player actually play.

      • Ld says:

        It’s so obvious that you and most other posters here are massive USA fanboys that you cannot watch Jozy with an unbiased eye and cannot accept that he is just not that good because USA has no one else it scares you and makes you sad

        • Nate Dollars says:

          so, i’m biased because i think jozy’s holdup play isn’t very good?

          as any casual observer would’ve noticed, jozy is quite good at putting the ball in the net when he gets service (with both club and national teams). what he’s not good at (although some think he’s improving) is holdup play, in large part because he’s just not very good at winning the aerial battles involved.

          your comment was laughable because it got both the criticism and the compliment dead wrong. but i think i’ve spent too much time on a troII.

        • whoop-whoop says:

          I’ll take a wild stab and guess that you were steered here from “that other site” Ives now writes where instigating confrontation and insulting other posters is the norm rather than having anything resembling a discussion. Nothing wrong with disagreeing, but how about making an intelligent point rather than attempting to insult the majority of posters here in your first paragraph? I’d guess you’ve likely spent as much time watching Sunderland this year as you have on this site…. not much at all. Altidore has received plenty of criticism here when warranted and sometimes when not. Remains to be seen how he things shake out, but I’d hardly say anything is conclusive 6 games into a season, on a new team, in a new league, on a bottom dweller club in such turmoil that the manager was sent packing 5 games into the season. While the team has struggled, Jozy has worked very hard and created opportunities for himself and others out of not much and not looked at all over matched. Fans and announcers have seen JA as one of the few bright spots… are they “US fanboys” too?

  62. Matt says:

    Don’t look now but Beasley is starting at LB for Puebla. Have I missed this all season or has he officially made the switch at both club and country?

    • Increase says:

      Wait seriously? That’s good I guess….

    • bryan says:

      he’s played LB for Puebla since the Gold Cup i believe.

    • The Other Jeff says:

      Anyone else think we may see Brad Evans at LB for Sounders? Only way to have Martins, Dempsey, EJ, Rosales, Neagle, Alonso and Evans all on the field at the same time. And aligns him with where he plays for NT (sort of).

      • Big Red says:

        He is the coach’s favorite besides Johnson so he’ll play. I think it is more likely he stays center or plays left mid and Neagle hits the bench. Martins is the other candidate to hit the bench. It’s too bad because Seattle is the best and most exciting team in the league when Neagle and Martins play forward. It’s pretty obvious. Too bad their coach doesn’t see it.

  63. Darwin says:

    Ok, some positives for Sunderland. Cattermole gets his first start coming back from injury and did well to control the game for stretches. Giaccherini showed his tenacity and got a goal from a play that Altidore could easily have scored on had he made a run for a followup goal. Sunderland’s attack woke up in the final 10 minutes, when Giaccherini moved beneath Altidore. They played this formation well in the Carling cup game.

    Maybe having Cattermole in will allow Borini to start wide and Giaccherini next to Altidore…

    • Increase says:

      I think they have a winger named Mavrias who looked okay the 1 time he was on but ya just that 1 time.

      • Darwin says:

        I think Borini has more quality and is more experienced, but he is new to the team and hasn’t reached full fitness yet.

  64. Bean says:

    Luis Suarez didn’t miss a beat. He is a prolific goal-scorer, and may be one of the best in the world today. Mamadou Sakho put in a strong shift for the Reds. He is earning himself a starting spot. Liverpool will be better going forward once Coutinho is back. Kolo Toure is covering for Glen Johnson admirably.

  65. Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

    According to the Guardian, the only person with an assist this season is Emanuele Giaccherini, with 1. I also liked the way he looked out there when behind Alti. Mavrias looked good out there, so between Borini, Johnson and Larsson and evidently Gardner and Colbeck, who seem like more traditional outside mids (but what they as long as they can retain possession, play a decent ball and put in a good cross), they should be anle figure something

    It’s apparent though that in order for Sunderland to have success for the rest of the first part of the season, Giaccherini and Altidore need to form a good understanding with one another. Maybe adopt a pure 4-4-1-1. You don’t have to invent the wheel to have any semblance of success. Just look at Tony Pulis’ stoke side last season as example.

  66. bryan says:

    Kljestan with an assist.

    • MikeG says:

      Vision and play-making.

    • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

      He just needs to keep on keeping on. I wonder if at his age, if he’ll try and make the nxt step. Which wouldn’t be much higher up really. I’m not even sure if he could make it in for a top team in any of the 5 big leagues in Europe.

      Maybe a Champions / Europa perennials like Panathinaikos, PAOK and Olympiacos in Greece, Ajax, PSV or Feyenoord in Holland or any of the Istanbul teams, Bursaspor or Trazbonspor in Turkey.

      I know it might seem redundant to go to another team, in another league sorta like Anderlecht in Belgium, but he seems he’s learned all he can at Anderlecht and good do with another challenge. There’s always new things to be learned from other leagues.

      • Turgid Jacobian says:

        But Anderlecht *is* a perennial continental competitor, and Belgium in the top 10 in leagues in UEFA. Turkey would be a step down, and the Netherlands only slightly up.

        If anything I would hope he would go to maybe France or Germany–if he could get interest there in the mid table.

        • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

          I think he could get interest from any top division in Germany, Italy or Frace. But playing time is something else. I think his skill, talent threshold is the equivalent of Parkhursts or so. And in comparison, He could sign with a team in one of the aforementioned leagues but would he see any time,? and then if not, would he be like Parkhurst and attract top tier teams in the 2nd divisions of those leagues? On the border of relegation teams in the 1st, promotion teams in the 2nd, i.e. Spector, Ream, Parkhurst and so on.

          Why Struggle with that when you can move to a league like those i was talking about. In regards to turkey, I completely disagree. If you look at their rosters and the standing each season, much like the Eredivisie, there’s always some surprise teams and the top half of those are,packed with players who have, succeeded at one point in a prominent league. Greece maybe not so much, Portugal really either. They both have 3 really great teams 3 respectable teams and the rest is on par.

          Straight out, Turkey or Holland would be a move up, especially if you can land on a perennial European competition club and get playing time. Greece and Portugal if you could get into on with a big player.

          Again you’ll say, “what’s the difference”? Well like I had mentioned I think he’s done all he can in that league and proven himself. The nxt step would be to go another league with different football styles and prove you can play their too. You’d only grow as a player in doing so.

  67. MikeG says:

    Just an observation: Why do so many teams in MLS, some in the EPL, when they get into the final third (in the middle of the field) they pass it out wide to the left or right, and then look for a playmaking type of pass (cross most of the time) into the box? This seems counter productive. When the ball goes out wide the defense has more time to close down and congest. I would rather have a fast or quick forward take a through or chip pass right down the middle and use athleticism to beat the defender. I see this a lot in the Bundesliga and Serie A. Look at Ozil at Arsenal. Just shows that a true #10 play-maker is definitely missing in today’s game.

    • bryan says:

      Because the #6 position was created to stop a #10 from tearing up the middle. So #10s are working from wider areas now. Great video on mls going over the evolution of the position.

      • Kingsly Alexander - Man Rey - Plotinus - Sankt Pauli! says:

        You can’t have only one way of attacking, defenses would figure it out quick. either compact themselves from letting a through ball get through the middle or like you said play wider and more dirrect to get the defense to spread out and to free up players. It’s important to have a mixture of both and that why the ball is constantly shifted from side to side, inside and and out. To keep defenders are their toes to when you spot a chance you can seize on it.

        It just so happens some countries have a knack for one or the other. Of your like England or the US, you traditionally play wider and, through the flanks to whip ball into the box. if your not so quick about it, what you described happens and by the time your in the opponents third, the defense has settled and so your forced to bring it back out and restart the attack or let our mids take shots from thirty yards out (this was Sunderland today).

        More technical leagues usually produce football of the later stated result, which just so happens to be the more entertaining. This is why all of the UK national teams are rather boring ( England can be fun though because their attacking flair wingers / forwards and Gerrard ), compared to…everyone else.

        • mikeg says:

          Some leagues have a primary attack in the wings and some attack down the wings as a secondary plan. Look at the WC history of Brazil, Germany, Italy, and Argentina. These teams have the talent to dissect down the middle. Look at England. Not picking on England or taking anything away from 1966, but times have changed. Look at Germany and Brazil in the history of the WC. They are doing some things right. They always have a #10 that dominates even a #6.

        • bryan says:

          When did I say you can only one way to attack? I just said the #10 position has evolved. Supposedly. I was providing a source addressing the topic the op was speaking on to provide sole context he might consider interesting.

          • MikeG says:

            Nobody said anyone has to attack only one way. The number 10 traditional position does not exist with England or the USA (or most other english speaking nations). The #10 in England and the USA is out on the wings and’s only wing play and not much play-making like a #10. Watch Arsenal Kick EPL A$$ with Ozil as a #10. I read the MLS article on Play-makers. I see the trend and it sucks. LOL…

            • bryan says:

              That comment was to Kingsly. I’m not sure anything you said is different than what I said. There are few pure #10s, most drift wider than traditionally.

  68. Steevens says:

    Portland Timbers sure are lucky MLS refs almost never give yellows for diving. Valeri and Urruti both with pitiful displays around the 65th min

  69. petedx says:

    Does anyone in mls whine more than Robbie Keane ?

    • Steevens says:

      Keane did manage to complain to the ref after he kicked Hurtado out of bounds last week… twice.

      • petedx says:

        I’ll give it to him though he doesn’t discriminate, he throws his hands up at his own players, refs, and the opposing players.

      • Steevens says:

        Keane should be so incredibly ashamed of himself for sprinting toward the line judge after having a goal called back for being (IMO) correctly ruled offside.

        So pitiful. So embarrassing. Not the behavior of a top player.

  70. petedx says:

    How do you not get carded for yelling in a refs face for about 2 minutes

  71. Mike E. says:

    Simply a pathetic call.

    Your arm can be anywhere. You can only be offside based on your torso, head or feet. None of those were offside.

    Referee took points from the Galaxy. Joke.

    • Steevens says:

      Your eyes work different than mine. I saw Keane’s entire torso leaning offside behind all other players. The ref made a tough call, and got it right.

    • bryan says:

      Dude, FIFAs Law 11 video says even if your nose if offside, you are offside.

      • Mike E. says:

        Your nose is part of your head. Failed anatomy, huh?

        • bryan says:

          Misread your post but I guess I was confused when you said you can only be offside based on certain body parts. Either way, he was offside. I’m an la fan. It was a good call.

        • Steevens says:

          And you failed your eye exam. Keane’s entire torso was offside. They just showed it again in SUPER slow motion with a screen capture.

          Did you see it now?

    • petedx says:

      It was a close call those are the breaks. What was pathetic and a joke was the galaxy reaction lead by Keane and Arena.

  72. Scott A says:

    In Cahill and Dax in the middle of the field we trust.

  73. Steevens says:

    Ref sure is letting NYRB plow into the backs of players holding up the ball.

  74. Steevens says:

    Martins has been poor. His passing has been off, and that is largely down to poor choices. He’s either not seeing the open player, or not making the right decision.

  75. chris_thebassplayer says:

    Wondo, crashes Gordo’s shot and throws the Quakes a lifeline….Massive!!!