40 responses

  1. dan
    September 24, 2013

    yet another reason why turf is terrible and should be banned

  2. Scott A
    September 24, 2013

    MLS wants to be a world powerhouse and thinks turf is just dandy *giggle*

  3. Brain Guy
    September 24, 2013

    Hey, Seattle — you’re showing the country how to be a real soccer town, but you forgot a pretty important thing. Get some real grass.

    • Jersey2Colorado
      September 24, 2013

      Seattles stadium is like Shelby Cobra kit car… looks real, sounds real, but it’s just plastic… Until they change it, it will always be a HUGE blemish.

    • Joamiq
      September 24, 2013

      Or at least get turf as good as Portland’s. Henry apparently is OK with playing on that. What’s the excuse for not installing that turf?

      • Gene
        September 25, 2013

        The NFL still rules. Even if the Sounders were able to consistently sell out the stadium, the Seahawks would continue to be the economic driver—TV money talks.

        I’m fairly certain that the current field meets FIFA standards, but the US (and the players and the owners of the players) would still prefer that they play on a crappy grass field laid over the even crappier phony grass (or in the case of the US-Panama game, laid over concrete—I think they were replacing the phony turf with another crappy phony turf field back in June).

  4. Eric
    September 24, 2013

    Why? So prima donnas being paid over $100,000 per game can complain? So fans who don’t like Seattle anyway will have to find something else to complain about?

    For $100K I’d play on concrete for 90 minutes! But FIFA (you remember them, right?) says Seattle’s turf is good enough even for WC qualifiers, so settle down out there…

    • Scott A
      September 24, 2013

      Putting faith in FIFA! :D

    • Gerald
      September 24, 2013

      The qualifier vs Panama was played on a crappy grass surface

    • SubwayJared
      September 24, 2013

      Not entirely correct.

      Seattle put grass over their turf for the qualifier.

    • Chupacabra
      September 25, 2013

      FIFA also thought that Qatar would be a good location to host the World Cup.

  5. Dan in New York
    September 24, 2013

    I wonder how Dempsey likes playing on the turf? He seems to have been out a few times already since coming to Seattle and I can’t see it being good for him long term.

  6. Iggy
    September 24, 2013

    Well there go the red bulls chances of the shield. Why would Henry not still travel…if they are down a goal with 10 mins left he cant even run around for that long? I understand thats a long flight, but would think he’d still want to be with the team for support.

    • slowleftarm
      September 24, 2013

      Why would he not travel even if he wasn’t going to dress? You’d think the guy would want to be there with his teammates in a big game.

  7. slowleftarm
    September 24, 2013

    Pathetic. And what if the MLS Cup final is at Seattle and RBNY have to go there (I know, wishful thinking)? He going to sit out that one too?

    • Joamiq
      September 24, 2013

      Yeah… I mean, I completely get focusing on the big picture, but if you’re not going to play in the biggest game of the regular season, one which could go a long way towards determining the team’s playoff fate… then what’s the point? Why not at least come out and dress, and give it 15-20 minutes if the team needs a goal late? Is he really more likely to get hurt in 15 minutes on turf vs. 90 minutes on grass?

      • SteveE
        September 25, 2013

        15-20 minutes isn’t going to end his career. This is a player putting himself above the team. Pathetic.

  8. get over it
    September 24, 2013

    Same thing time and again. Grass won’t work in clink on the most basic level. Seattle is not going to give up a stadium that size so Henry can travel and play once every two years. We would love grass but we share our stadium so its isn’t up to us. These players are professionals, if they can’t adapt, its their fault, not ours.

    • Brain Guy
      September 25, 2013

      So take some of the gazillions of dollars your owners have, and continue to rake in from their perpetually record-setting crowds, and do what just about every other team has done or is trying to do — build your own stadium. It’s not like the Sounders would have to go hat in hand to the government. Heck, they just agreed to pay Dempsey a fortune. The issue goes beyond Henry and Olave. It’s about being top-class in the most basic of categories: the playing surface.

      • Chupacabra
        September 25, 2013

        Exactly. Paul Allen pays $200 million/year just to operate his biggest yacht. That’s a billion dollars every five years. The Sounders owners can easily afford to build a proper SSS for their team.

      • Get Over It
        September 25, 2013

        but where would it go? We have a prime downtown location right now, its part of why we can draw so many, its easy to get there. If we were to build a SSS it would have to be out in the burbs and that would kill it.

  9. Lassidawg
    September 24, 2013

    Why change to grass? If top players don’t want to play better for our team.
    I am going to go out on a limb and guess most who complain about the turf have never actually played on the newer stuff.

  10. haysoos
    September 24, 2013

    Soccer is better on artificial grass. We’re not still playing with balls made of vulcanized rubber. MLS needs to embrace progress and move all fields to turf.

    • Jersey2Colorado
      September 25, 2013

      LOL

  11. Norman
    September 24, 2013

    The playoffs basically render the regular season meaninless so players feel like they can take a match off whenever they want. If Henry does’t care about an important regular season MLS match why should anyone else care? MLS will remain a Micky Mouse league as long at it contiues to have playoffs and plastic pitches.

    • Georkt
      September 25, 2013

      I agree with your “plastic pitches” comment but the playoffs are here to stay (though I don’t like them). It makes no sense to play Henry and Olave and risk losing them for the next three matches, plus the playoffs. The fake grass studies mean nothing as some posters have already explained how it affects the body and recovery time.

  12. ElMetrofan
    September 24, 2013

    I think Olave not playing is worse than Henry not playing.

  13. Smith
    September 24, 2013

    I guess they will play Cahill and Espindola up top with Dax and Mccarty in thr middle and LLOYD SAM out wide.

    • Tim F.
      September 24, 2013

      Did you mean Alexander in addition to Dax?

      • Smith Number Two
        September 24, 2013

        Nope. Clones.

      • Michael
        September 25, 2013

        + 100,000. “MIS-ter AND-er-SON…”

      • Smith
        September 25, 2013

        Yes. I meant Alexander & Dax. My Thumb got ahead of me.

  14. The Turfinator
    September 24, 2013

    I’d be interested to see an injury breakdown to see if turf actually does impact players more. Do teams (just Seattle and Portland?) that play on turf have higher injury rates than teams that play on grass?

    • dfs
      September 24, 2013

      link to bjsm.bmj.com

      Objective: To compare the incidence, nature, severity and cause of match injuries sustained on grass and new generation artificial turf by male and female footballers.

      Methods: The National Collegiate Athletic Association Injury Surveillance System was used for a two-season (August to December) prospective study of American college and university football [soccer] teams (2005 season: men 52 teams, women 64 teams; 2006 season: men 54 teams, women 72 teams).

      Conclusions: There were no major differences in the incidence, severity, nature or cause of match injuries sustained on new generation artificial turf and grass by either male or female players.

      • ManicMessiah
        September 25, 2013

        I’m not doubting a study I haven’t read and will go on the assumption it’s true. But Henry and Olave are both older, and I wonder whether turf may exacerbate ligaments and muscles in older athletes, whose wear and tear on their bodies may react to the different surface.

      • dfs
        September 25, 2013

        You’re right that it doesn’t specifically cover older athletes or injuries after playing on turf. But it wouldn’t be unreasonable to think that if those were the case you’d see it in the data in the form of more injuries to players who played on turf at home. That’s just not there in this particular study.

        To use a saying from academic conferences. I’m fine with you throwing out my data, but first show me yours.

      • Scott A
        September 25, 2013

        Yeah, the study does nothing to address injuries/shortened career that arise later than the 90 minutes on that turf.

    • Northzax
      September 25, 2013

      link to synturf.org

      A study of nfl injuries on turf/grass. Showed a statistically significant difference for ACL/MCL and ankle sprains on turf.

  15. Pingunça
    September 25, 2013

    Henry.. does he exist? He never plays in Seattle.. I’ve seen Lenhart.. he’s a cagey guy,.. like him or hate him at least he shows up.. he has heart.

    Henry…..

    ?

    • Michael
      September 25, 2013

      Seattle fan: Henry doesn’t play in Seattle, ergo, Henry does not exist.

      Thank you for inventing soccer, Seattle.

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