54 responses

  1. Luis Esco
    March 15, 2014

    Questionable. Thats a polite way to put it.

    I don’t watch the Rapids but have they flopped and dived that much in the past? Tbh I’ve never seen any MLS team ever dive that much before.

    • Eric
      March 15, 2014

      Rapids have never had the rep of a team that dives a lot to my knowledge. Keep in mind that this is the team Conor Casey led the line for not that long ago–I can’t imagine they care too much for forwards who flop all the time.

      • jcr
        March 15, 2014

        I would not make a comparison with having Conor Casey on the team. There is a new coach and new players. Casey is long gone. Disgusting. I hope MLS reviews the game and punishes the team and its players.

      • Rory
        March 16, 2014

        Nope, not a flopping team at all. If anything in the Casey years we were probably getting defenders flipping due to Casey’s reputation as a bull in a China shop.

        But since Chavez has been with the Rapids for all of one game so far, perhaps you should ask San Jose fans if HE is a flopper.
        Also, New York had had a rep for making a meal of some touches by defenders, have they not?

  2. sweatervest
    March 15, 2014

    That call really was awful

    • Rory
      March 16, 2014

      I call BS to this. Yeah, Olave’s arms are straight up, but watch his right knee which he swings into Chavez’s butt/back/anything dangling in that general region. If you watch the replay you can’t see exactly where he hits but you can clearly see Olave’s move forward and his right foot ( visible through Chavez’s legs) move forward quickly about two feet and sweep through Chavez. There was definately contact made and given that Olave is a physical force I’d say it wasn’t pleasant for Chavez at all.

      I assume those announcers were homers of the RedBulls for not noting this.

  3. downintexas
    March 15, 2014

    MLS really needs to drop the hammer on this type of plays to deceive the ref.

    • Rory
      March 16, 2014

      Yes, Olave clearly tried to deceive the ref by throwing his hands up like he wasn’t doing anything all the while he was sweeping his knee into the back of a defenseless defender. Good call by the red not to fall for it, but MLS should come down on the defender’s attempt to deceive by throwing his hands up like that.

      • Rory
        March 16, 2014

        On the MLS page of highlights the first replay of the incident shows contact between Olave’s powerful knee and Chavez’s “bad touch” zone. I don’t know it was intentional, but Olave’s leg sweeps through that general region when they collide.

        link to golazo.mlssoccer.com

      • Dude, but Chavez is holding his head when he falls…
        March 17, 2014

        Why is Chavez holding his head when he is on the ground after recieving such a soft penalty if you watch football anywhere even in China that call doesn’t get blown by the ref especially on such a tight match like that. It needed to be a two footed tackle or a strike to the head from behind, which Olave’s tackle was not reckless like Man United tackles vs Liverpool last saturday. It was a bad call, just like how the penalty called in week 1 vs RBNY, the PK was warranted because Eckersley handed the ball in the box but the PK should have been retaken since a Vancouver Whitecap player invaded the penalty box while the shot was being taken from the spot. The officiating has not been as spot on as you are painting it.

  4. RB
    March 15, 2014

    “Replays showed Olave standing with his arms up as Chavez backed into him”

    Must be different replays not shown on the broadcast or on the MLS site, as the ones there showed, in turn nothing conclusive and Olave stepping up and putting a chest into the bump as much as Chavez backing into him.

    • goredbulls
      March 15, 2014

      So you think it was legitimate then? Gotta say, I disagree with you.

      • RB
        March 15, 2014

        No, I think it was soft. Said so immediately to a friend while watching. But that doesn’t mean Olave was just standing there stock still enjoying the sunshine and minding his own business when suddenly Chavez victimized him.

      • Sparta Riverside
        March 15, 2014

        I agree. Soft penalty, but a bonehead play by Olave to bump a known diver in the box. The guy who wrote this article completely misrepresented what happened.

    • Joamiq
      March 16, 2014

      “putting a chest into the bump”

      The mere notion that anyone could think that a play described like this (by someone sympathetic to the call) could be a foul is laughable.

      “putting a chest into the bump”

      Amazing.

  5. AcidBurn
    March 15, 2014

    That call was Kouman Coulibaly-level awful. You could call five to ten penalties a game with that level of softness. Replacement Refs 1, MLS 0.

    Show some accountability MLS and do something to apologize for that.

    • RB
      March 15, 2014

      Ah, the Internet: bastion of hyperbole.

  6. Chodilicus
    March 15, 2014

    Not a fan of either team, but that was an aweful PK call. Absolutely nothing there at all. Colorado has never been the worst flopping team, but Chavez is a perennial diver. I would like to see him fined for this one, simply as an MLS fan that sees no room in the game for this kind of deception.

  7. Scott A
    March 15, 2014

    Good job, MLS empty suits.

  8. Tim F.
    March 15, 2014

    F-L-O-P

  9. Becks
    March 15, 2014

    Yeah…except that was the right call. All RB fans here. Switch the uniforms. You’d blow the whistle every time. Olave hit him like a ton of bricks, regardless if his “arms were up”. He hit him hard with his body. You can’t do that. You can’t just slam into someone’s back like that. Sorry RB fans, it was the right call.

    • sweatervest
      March 15, 2014

      Absolutely not. That play happens twenty times a game. The Colorado player flopped hard and the ref fell for it. You did too apparently, which is truly shocking considering the video evidence. Poor call for sure. He will be fined for simulation.

    • Joamiq
      March 16, 2014

      “slam into someone’s back”

      Hilarious. Find me another PK on a play like that. I’ll wait.

    • beachbum
      March 16, 2014

      not an RB fan here. that was not a PK imo

  10. Dos
    March 15, 2014

    New Jersey Red Bull. An hour from midtown. Train to HOBOKEN then out to Harrison. BOTH WAYS! What a complete joke. Can’t wait for NYFC

    • Scott A
      March 16, 2014

      Kinda like the New Jersey Cosmos? Teehee. Westchester will be sooo NYC for fair-weather fans.

    • Joamiq
      March 16, 2014

      You must be a tourist if you’re calling out the team for that. That has nothing to do with NYRB and everything to do with the Port Authority deciding randomly, out of nowhere, that the most important PATH station has to be closed throughout the weekend for at least a year. It’s like the MTA deciding out of nowhere to close Penn Station or Grand Central indefinitely. Absurd. Not something the Red Bulls could ever have foreseen. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone close to Cosmos ownership made it happen.

      And if you can’t wait for “NYFC”, then cool. See ya.

    • georkt
      March 16, 2014

      Why wait, get out now, you won’t be missed.

    • PauseTheGameRealQuick
      March 16, 2014

      Should have just taken NJ transit bro. 34th street to New Penn, 2 stops. A couple more dollars saves you the headache.

    • slowleftarm
      March 16, 2014

      Surprisingly, RBNY doesn’t actually decide when PATH will do track work. If you pick your team based on how fast the train ride is, you’re a pretty terrible “fan” anyway. I’m sure the bleachers at Yankee stadium will offer you a great view of the action. And you’ll be crying first time the 4 train is delayed.

  11. Joamiq
    March 16, 2014

    Look, I`’ll be fair. Draw was a fair result. Red Bulls didn’t deserve 3 points. Third string Colorado keeper in there and they couldn’t put enough pressure on him to score more than one goal.

    But the PK was absolute BS. You won’t see a worse PK called, ever, at any level. Watch the replays. It’s absurd. Every play in soccer would be a foul if that one is. Ref should be held accountable for that. Anyone arguing otherwise is a meritless homer or someone unfamiliar with soccer.

    But still, that wasn’t why RB didn’t get 3 points. Colorado earned the draw.

    • RB
      March 16, 2014

      This is quite a good post if you can overlook the unfortunate hyperbole in the middle, there. I daresay many of us have already seen more than one PK call that was worse than that, including at the highest level and by non-replacement refs. I mean any such call where replays showed no contact was actually made automatically qualifies, of course.

      But yes, all in all, it could only be a very Red Bull-favorable view that just blames that call for them not taking full points yesterday. A Rapids team that hadn’t played yet, and hadn’t ever played under their new coach, who hadn’t ever coached a game at this level, starting a rookie keeper and others also in their first games at this level or in this league, and who had travelled most of the length of the country to get there, and in the end a team who many expect to finish in the bottom 3-4 of their conference this season… And that’s all you can muster against them?

      I personally expected a Red Bulls cakewalk featuring 3-4 goals from the home side and a rather obvious mismatch throughout. But instead the Red Bulls failed to beat the Rapids decisively in anything. Accorsing to the league site, the closest they got was their small possession advantage of 52-47. Meanwhile the Rapids outshot them 18-11, and 6-2 on target, had 8 corners to just 2 for the Red Bulls, and even edged them in passing accuracy. All on the road in the Red Bulls’ house under those difficult circumstances. But I’m sure it’s more comforting to take the old tried and true approach of just blaming the ref (who to be fair called a fine and even game otherwise, even if you dislike that call, and despite beig a replacement ref).

      On a side note, it sure was enjoyable to watch Olave huffing and puffing to keep up with Brown, and he and Armando struggling to contain him even with their tag-team approach. :-)

      • PauseTheGameRealQuick
        March 16, 2014

        Lmfao. You didn’t actually watch the game, troll.

      • RB
        March 16, 2014

        Whole thing straight through. But thanks for that valuable input.

    • RB
      March 20, 2014

      Interested to hear Lalas (of course somewhat familiar with defending himself) say today on his podcast that it was the right call and that Olave as a defender should have known better.

  12. PauseTheGameRealQuick
    March 16, 2014

    That PK call was so soft, those Charmin bears could use it as toilet tissue.

    I was there yesterday, and I wouldn’t have wanted to be that ref at the end of the game. The crowd thoroughly took him to task.

    • Chupacabra
      March 16, 2014

      Yeah. The p-wads that call themselves Red Bulls fans took pictures of the ref with their cell phones and threatened to call the cops.

      • PuaseTheGameRealQuick
        March 16, 2014

        What? The boos were pretty vociferous among other things that were being hurled at him, both linguistically and physically.

        There is a reason why this highlight ends after the PK. The Rapids reaction to that garbage goal was to lay down on the ground at a moments notice and time waste the game away. The crowd reaction said it all… I guess MLS doesn’t want the rest of the world to see that do they?

      • RB
        March 16, 2014

        “There is a reason why this highlight ends after the PK. The Rapids reaction to that garbage goal was to lay down on the ground at a moments notice and time waste the game away.”

        Good point, other than the fact that that’s not at all what happened. Believe me, many a Rapids supporter were questioning how long the team would continue to press for the 3 points rather than settle back and play for the draw on the road in a tough place.

      • PauseTheGameRealQuick
        March 16, 2014

        So you’re really trying to tell me that Rapids were pressing? They dived to get one goal, then they dived to waste the game away over and over again. The Metro support was counting down the seconds that they were wasting. That is EXACTLY what happened lol.

      • RB
        March 16, 2014

        Yes, one can see from your post above how focused you are on what really happened. Thanks.

      • georkt
        March 16, 2014

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      • RB
        March 16, 2014

        Oookaaaaayyyy…

        Did you bring enough to share with the class? :-)

  13. Tony
    March 16, 2014

    How bad were the red bulls? Well this game was beyond boring! Dax was missing and has not returned to form which is surprising. Cahill was not really present in midfield. Bradley is the new espindola missing two goals. This guy is a backup at best. Eckersley, miller are horrible. yep they overlap but whip the ball to no one. And when they are on defense their play is questionable. Convey may be great in practice but that pedigree is not there. Henry had moments of magic but guess what when it counts he always cowards away. He had a chance to make some magic against a rookie on a free kick and he puts the ball at the far post hoping for someone else to put the ball in. Actions like this make his play questionable at best. Alexander missed a wide open shot! Robles was outstanding and kept the scoreline tight. Luyundila made two plays in stoppage time which beg the question how is this guy on the bench? Yeah they got lucky to get one point.

  14. atleticodemadridfan
    March 16, 2014

    Dive.

  15. slowleftarm
    March 16, 2014

    I think it’s fair to say that call was wrong (not just soft) but not necessarily the worst penalty decision in the history of the sport. There’s a middle ground. It happens, although it happens more in MLS than in other leagues I would say.

    In any event, RBNY’s performance wasn’t really deserving of all three points so I can’t complain that much. This is a pretty much talent-free Rapids team that will probably finish near the bottom of the west and this should have been three points at home. Still, it’s really early – last season started with a draw in Portland, the Roy Miller debacle in San Jose and a draw at home against DC (worst team in MLS history) United and ended with the Supporters Shield.

    • Brain Guy
      March 16, 2014

      Reasoned analysis like that has no place on the Interwebs.

      • RB
        March 16, 2014

        Ha — I agree, and (except for that unfortunately hyperbolic “talent-free” remark) agree with SLA on everything he says here.

      • slowleftarm
        March 16, 2014

        Who is this guy? And who called the hyperbole police anyway?

      • RB
        March 16, 2014

        When your starters include last year’s ROTY, last year’s ROTY runner-up, last year’s Gold Cup Golden Boot winner (share), as well as players like Shane O’Neill, Chris Klute, Clint Irwin, etc, only hyperbole could lead you to call it “talent-free”.

        And I’m not sure why it matters who I am, but I’ve been posting on this site for the past 3-4 years. Have often disputed your strongly held views regarding the background of players on the international side of the game, in fact.

  16. ElMetrofan
    March 16, 2014

    I think Chávez sold the PK. Hes got a career probably in the new series of CSI Denver as a double getting shot. The guy fell as if his balls( not the soccer ball) got taken away from him.

  17. Brain Guy
    March 16, 2014

    Kelly was completely fooled by Chavez. When a tiny guy and a huge guy bump into each other, what do you expect? Chavez made it look like Olave gave him a two-handed shove. Kelly “explained” the call by saying that Olave initiated the contact. If that’s the standard, there should be about 15 PKs per game. I can’t believe that I’m wishing for the regular refs to come back.

  18. baropbop
    March 16, 2014

    If that happens anywhere else on the field it’s called as a foul. Maybe a bit soft for a pk, but not outrageous by any means.

  19. Me
    March 17, 2014

    Was the author of this article not able to talk with Colorado players? No mention of Pablo Mastroeni coaching his first game? Thanks for the one-sided read.

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