55 responses

  1. PD in Philly
    September 2, 2014

    cue JK hate and LD love in 3…. 2…..

  2. Vic
    September 2, 2014

    Get over it Klinnsmann, you like to complain over everything. When friendlies are played in US many of the Europeans don’t go. When friendlies are played in Europe, it gives some of the young Euro players a chance. It all works out.

    • DCGooner
      September 2, 2014

      this

    • Ian
      September 2, 2014

      Except that he’s 100% and his suggestion to extend the season is a perfect solution to an MLS-made problem. Start earlier, end later, and don’t schedule games on FIFA dates. It’s so simple.

      • The Imperative Voice
        September 2, 2014

        FIFA is on both sides of the issue. They have established international dates and rules regarding player release. But the implication of the player release rules is actually, if you think about it, that the show can go on.

        JK also doesn’t have to run out a team in February or December in snow in Quebec just so MLS can dodge a conflict that affects a couple players per team, max, and often certain teams not at all.

        FWIW, part of the European solution is two games some weeks, or teams running out reserves for cup and UEFA contests. It’s not like the game evaporates out of fear of the international date. It goes someplace and if the fixture list gets too cramped they run out kids for the paying customers.

      • John
        September 2, 2014

        That’s funny because I kind of remember the US playing in the snow.

      • JayAre
        September 2, 2014

        +1 I just debated this same article on reddit I can’t do it anymore but just know I agree with you word for word.

      • Ian
        September 2, 2014

        Good enough for me.

      • Cylo
        September 2, 2014

        same here. I always hated we couldn’t call the MLS guys for Sept. I would have loved to see Zardes on this team

      • Ian
        September 2, 2014

        Same here! He’ll get a call sooner than later, the way he’s been playing, but this would be a good time for him to get some international action. He’s on a hot streak.

      • LarryB
        September 2, 2014

        It’s really not as simple as it sounds. For teams on the upper east coast to midwest, like DC, NY, Columbus, NE; we have horrible attendance during the beginning months because the weather is so horrible. Extending the season has the same effect, except at a time where the teams need all the support they can get. It’s just not as simple as it sounds.

      • DCLee
        September 2, 2014

        Agree.

      • Ian
        September 3, 2014

        That actually is simple. Schedule early and late-season games in temperate-weather cities: LA, San Jose, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, San Antonio/Sacramento/Miami. Montreal can play inside Olympic Stadium.

  3. Norn Iron
    September 2, 2014

    I think Klinsmann is absolutely correct. MLS needs to allow our best domestic talent to also develop with the national team. International fixture dates don’t come that often, and MLS could shift games around to accommodate. It’s one of the things that hurts our national team.

    • Colonel Angus
      September 2, 2014

      No, I don’t think that this hurt our national team.

      This early Sept international break has always been one of the dumber ones. The domestic leagues are just getting started in Europe and now club managers lose players for the next two weeks. That makes no sense. Aside from Africa, there really aren’t any important games during this window that couldn’t be played at another time.

      I do agree with Klinsmann that MLS needs to figure out how to accommodate the other international dates as it’s hurting certain MLS teams more than others and that isn’t fair.

    • BostonRed
      September 2, 2014

      Ultimately, it’s a compromise. It means more cold weather and mid-week games for MLS (and lessened revenue) and a tighter schedule. But as long as MLS bulks up on internationals with NT aspirations, they are going to have to deal with the issues. It was one thing in the early days, but it is part of the price of admission for getting better players.

      And also deal with “outside the FIFA calendar” events like the Copa Centroamericano & the African Cup of Nations. No schedule can accommodate everyone and every country’s needs.

  4. mike
    September 2, 2014

    actually, a common sense response. i agree with him.

  5. John
    September 2, 2014

    I’m fine with it for this match because it’s the start of a new cycle and a chance to see some new players. However that’s not always the case and we’ll need to focus more on building chemistry moving forward. Klinsmann is right and having 2 different teams in the long run isn’t going to work.

  6. Dirk
    September 2, 2014

    This could be the beginning of the end for Klinsmann.

    • Clyde Frog
      September 2, 2014

      That’s what you take from this??

    • Ian
      September 2, 2014

      Bahaha, okay.

      • Dirk
        September 2, 2014

        It was okay, leaving Donovan out, playing very bad soccer in Brazil, giving the team no chance, but now Klinsmann is messing with the important people in American soccer. He is messing with the MLS OWNERS!

      • Clyde Frog
        September 2, 2014

        Giving the team no chance to what?

      • darkazure
        September 3, 2014

        Donovan…. is that you?

    • Kosh
      September 2, 2014

      WHAT???

      Uh…OK.

  7. Clyde Frog
    September 2, 2014

    First, to all the Klinsmann haters, the big picture issue here is not “Klinsmann vs. MLS.” This is going to increasingly be an issue in the years to come, regardless of who the coach is. And it’s actually a very interesting issue.

    In past years, the national team powers that be understood that MLS’ existence was vital to the national team, and that this existence was very fragile. MLS had to play on FIFA dates to avoid revenue killing mid-week games and bad weather early and late season games. Though its existence is equally vital to the national team now, MLS is in a much much better position financially. To many around the national team it’s probably starting to seem like, rather than a necessary evil to keep MLS alive, playing on FIFA dates is now about increasing the owners’ profits. There are likely those who think that, unlike in 2001, MLS’ survival would in no way be put at any level of risk by taking all FIFA dates off.

    Is it too soon to make that rosy prognosis on MLS’ teams’ financial status? Maybe. But of course we don’t know. MLS is not exactly super transparent with its finances. But you have to feel moving forward this is going to become a bigger issue, not a smaller one. And again, it won’t matter who the coach is.

    • wiger toods
      September 2, 2014

      Why not just cut back on the stupid exhibition games with foreign teams while MLS is in mid-season. I get it’s a money grab, but it’s contributing to this problem.

      • BostonRed
        September 2, 2014

        But those profits pay for the games in March with low attendance…

      • Clyde Frog
        September 2, 2014

        But what’s the owners’ incentive to eliminate a “money grab?”

      • BostonRed
        September 2, 2014

        One thing they can do is schedule those as matches between other touring teams and, assuming they control the stadium revenues, take the money and run.

        Mexican teams also play these in-season (though usually early season) friendlies… mostly in the US. Everybody sure likes money.

  8. Alex H
    September 2, 2014

    Typical overblown headline. Nothing in JK’s comments indicates he is “lashing out”. I’m pretty sure that every national team coach had the same opinion. Nothing new here.

    • Clyde Frog
      September 2, 2014

      Other coaches would say the same thing, but unlike other coaches, I’m pretty sure Klinsmann’s hands were soaking in the blood of 1000 kittens as he spoke.

      • Anthony
        September 2, 2014

        LOL!

  9. Brain Guy
    September 2, 2014

    Do away with silly in-season friendlies and the ASG. That will leave room for MLS breaks during FIFA windows.

    • beto
      September 2, 2014

      +1

    • Ian
      September 2, 2014

      In-season friendlies are a farce and really an insult to the league in general. With that we agree. But the ASG? I personally don’t care for the game at all, but it does drum up media attention, and the events surrounding the game (concerts, parties, general fan involvement) are pretty damn cool. I think we can make room for one big non-competitive mid-season match – the ASG – but I’d love to see MLS teams say “Nah” next time Man United or Real Madrid come calling.

      … I won’t hold me breath.

      • beachbum
        September 2, 2014

        pretty much agree all the way, but have always kind of liked the All Star game in some format

  10. beto
    September 2, 2014

    Preach! MLS’ schedule is a joke. The bare minimum they could do is avoid conflict between the FIFA Mandated schedule.

    MLS teams should be thanking Jurgen for not calling players this round even tho he could.

    the first 17-x amount of years of MLS were all about providing stability to the top of the US Soccer pyramid. Now that we are there, or at least close to, and the league has decided to play a major role in our national team’s roster they should turn their focus into becoming a better soccer league.

    • BostonRed
      September 2, 2014

      Just to give you an idea, here’s the 2015 dates that primarily affect MLS:

      23-31 March Official or Friendly Matches

      08-16 June Official or Friendly Matches

      07-26 July CONCACAF Gold Cup 2015

      31 August – 08 September Official or Friendly Matches

      05-13 October Official or Friendly Matches

      09-17 November Official or Friendly Matches

      That’s 5 weekends lost plus the month of July. It’s getting harder and harder for teams to function during the Gold Cup unless the US leaves their stars in MLS.

      No easy answers. At least now JK has over half the team available for the January camp. Not many NTs have that luxury.

      • Lost in Space
        September 2, 2014

        If you disregard the summer tournaments in this debate (Gold Cup, Confederations Cup, Copa America, World Cup) than MLS taking the other FIFA dates off isn’t too difficult to Accommodate. 5 weeks is basically moving 2 games earlier in the year and 2 games to the end of the year. The November matches would likely only affect 2-4 teams which would limit the number of players the Coach would have to pass over for selection.
        This seems to be a smart Compromise. As more nations have players in MLS (US, CR, Hon, Canada, El Sal, Jam, etc….) the more MLS will have to bend to the FIFA dates in order to avoid putting a bad/worse product on the field during the league matches.

  11. beto
    September 2, 2014

    just an idea, not sure if I would be 100% for it but i thought I would throw it out there:

    Typical calendar year has 12-18 national team fixtures, i believe this to be true for all nations.

    Instead of having them scattered across the 12 months in 1 week increments, have a December-January and a June-July FIFA break with 6-9 or so games a piece…

    i would imagine that distances traveled between clubs and countries would decrease and both club and national team managers would have more uninterrupted periods with their players.

    thoughts?..

    • GW
      September 2, 2014

      So you are proposing a summer and winter break just for international games? Is this just for friendlies? What do you propose to do about qualifying matches? Have them all at once in a qualifiying tournament?

      I’m not sure that would be any less of a scheduling headache and it might mean some players, who time their injuries poorly, will go long stretches without playing for the national team.

      • beto
        September 2, 2014

        Yes consolidating the international fixtures to 2 eight week periods. I think it could work and get every friendly, qualifier, continental cup, world cup, etc in.

        That last point is true…

  12. Wrighteous
    September 2, 2014

    JK is right to sound the alarm. The MLS season is already too long (March to November for the best teams). A couple of games should be cut to accommodate FIFA dates. As a DCU fan, it would have been terrible not to have had Bill Hamid (for example) available for the Red Bull fixture this past weekend. We might very well have lost.

    • Ian
      September 2, 2014

      Too long? He’s saying it’s too short. It should be extended to accommodate more FIFA breaks. And it is too short. Right now, even the best teams get a three month off-season. That’s a month longer than Europe.

      • BostonRed
        September 2, 2014

        But don’t forget, most leagues take a month or 6 weeks around the New Year.

      • Ian
        September 3, 2014

        This is true for Germany, Eredivisie, and perhaps others (I don’t follow Spain or Italy), but it is not the case for the EPL. The Prem marches straight through December and January.

      • bostonredsoccer
        September 3, 2014

        The EPL prides itself on never breaking. But a little research shows Turkey, 1 month; Austria, 6 weeks; France, 1 month; Russia, 3 months; Spain, 2 weeks; Italy, 2 weeks.

  13. Willie
    September 2, 2014

    When was he trying to get Bradley? the Donovan send off game? but even more then that, why would he even want him? Apparently he hasnt watched MB in MLS play. If you thought that Donovan was behind, you should catch Bradley’s act.

  14. beachbum
    September 2, 2014

    I’d like to see the MLS schedule start a little sooner to prepare CCL teams for those home and away knockout matchups, even just a couple of weeks, altho it means taking more chances with weather…can always reschedule games IF needed, right? not the easiest fix but one that would help those MLS teams to be better prepared

    whatever happens, hope this situation evolves and does not remain static but it (MLS scheduling) has got some intricacies to sort out

  15. ilikefreddyyesadu
    September 2, 2014

    Why should MLS bother? You left their greatest player at home during FIFA’s biggest fixture dates this summer!

    • beto
      September 2, 2014

      You talking about Freddy?

  16. FRANK
    September 2, 2014

    JUERGUNN IS ALWAYS RIGHT
    HE CAN BE SUPREME LEDER AND HAVE ALL THE HELICOPTER RIDES HE WANT

  17. McQ
    September 3, 2014

    The only place our National Team players can get world class games and competition are in internationals – MLS is just not up to snuff yet. Until the level of play gets there, they should not schedule games.

  18. william
    September 4, 2014

    I agree with Klinsmann. He won the world cup. He revamped German football. The fact that this is a discussion is ridiculous.

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